
   Hello:

   As I posted several days ago, I was trying to implement this model:

fledgecoltailmodel1<-lmer(nfledge~sex*briventral*inslarge*weatherpc1*tlength-sex:briventral:inslarge:weatherpc1:tlength-sex:briventral:inslarge:weatherpc1-sex:briventral:inslarge:tlength-sex:briventral:weatherpc1:tlength-sex:inslarge:weatherpc1:tlength-briventral:inslarge:weatherpc1:tlength-sex:briventral:inslarge-sex:briventral:weatherpc1-sex:briventral:tlength-sex:inslarge:weatherpc1-sex:inslarge:tlength-sex:weatherpc1:tlength-briventral:inslarge:weatherpc1-briventral:inslarge:tlength-briventral:weatherpc1:tlength-inslarge:weatherpc1:tlength+(site|pair),family=poisson)

   but I got the error message:

   Error in asMethod(object) : matrix is not symmetric [1,2]

  as no one seems to know what could be the reason for that or how to find a solution, I was thinking that maybe I could try using another function. Starting with the one which seems more similar to "lmer", I tried with "GLMM", which I read in some post it could be taken from "lme4" package. However, when I try to use it (either "glmm" or "GLMM"), R tells me such function doesn't exist.

   Do you know why this could be happening? Do you know of any other functions I could use to fit my model? I was thinking as well of "MCMCglmm", but I'm not sure I can apply it to my model and I don't think I'm expert enough as to deal with its syntax or the overdispersion problems.

   I am using R 2.12.0

   Thank you very much for your help!


   
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