[R-sig-ME] Fixed effects in lmer()
th|erry@onke||nx @end|ng |rom |nbo@be
Fri Jun 18 09:54:16 CEST 2021
If the random effects only explain the noise of the linear regression, then
you could get similar fixed effect estimates. The summary of both models
would be useful.
IMHO R² has only a clear definition under very special conditions: a linear
regression with Gaussian distribution and without random effects.
Unfortunately, as people start learning statistics with this kind of model,
they assume that other models have the same properties. You could do an LRT
between models with and without the set of fixed effects.
Are you referring to non-negative random effects? The lmer random effects
assume a zero mean normal distribution. Which implies the possibility of
ir. Thierry Onkelinx
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Op vr 18 jun. 2021 om 08:24 schreef Duncan Jackson <duncanjackson using gmail.com
> Hi everyone.
> I have some questions about lmer() and I'm wondering if you might be able
> to help me out.
> I’ve run a mixed-model in lmer() including multiple random effects and a
> fixed effect. I’ve noticed that if I run a comparison simple regression
> model with no random effects but the same fixed effect, I get precisely the
> same unstandardised beta coefficient for my fixed effect in the simple
> regression as I get if I run the mixed model.
> Am I correct in thinking, therefore, that the beta coefficients generated
> in the mixed model in lmer() do not control for the random effects in the
> model? Would it make a difference in this respect if participants in my
> dataset were nested in a random effect? Also, how does one summarise
> an overall R square value for the impact of a set of fixed effects in a
> mixed model with lmer()?
> On another note, I was wondering if there were any more recent suggestions
> about how to handle random effects in REML-based models using lmer() that
> are fenced at zero. Is it possible that alternative optimizers might
> assist in this respect? One issue I find when comparing lmer() with
> Bayesian estimators is that the difficulties in this respect often appear
> to arise with very small effects (i.e., those that approach near-zero
> variance estimates).
> Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.
> Kind regards,
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