[R-sig-ME] ZIP MCMCglmm - how to increase effective sample size?

dani orchidn at live.com
Wed Nov 1 21:14:15 CET 2017


Hello Pierre and list members,


Thank you so much! The analysis with the new prior worked:) However, the effective samples are still small, so I am trying again the new prior with more iterations - will report back how my effective samples change.


Best regards, everyone!

DNM


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Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 10:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [R-sig-ME] ZIP MCMCglmm - how to increase effective sample size?

Just some parentheses issue:
priori <- list(R=list(V=diag(2), nu=1, fix=2),
               G=list(G1=list(V=diag(2)/2, nu=2, alpha.mu=c(0,0), alpha.V=diag(2)*1000),
                      G2=list(V=diag(2)/2, nu=2, alpha.mu=c(0,0), alpha.V=diag(2)*1000)))

Cheers,
Pierre

Le mercredi 1 novembre 2017, 17:18:05 NZDT dani a écrit :
> Hi Pierre,
>
> I tried using the new prior you suggested and I got this error:
>
> Error in MCMCglmm(y ~ trait - 1 + at.level(trait,1):(x1+:
>   prior list should contain elements R, G, and/or B only
>
> I am not sure what to do about this:)
> Any advice would be very much appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> DaniNM
> <http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: R-sig-mixed-models <r-sig-mixed-models-bounces at r-project.org> on behalf of Pierre de Villemereuil <pierre.de.villemereuil at mailoo.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 2:08 PM
> To: r-sig-mixed-models at r-project.org
> Subject: Re: [R-sig-ME] ZIP MCMCglmm - how to increase effective sample size?
>
> Hi,
>
> There are about three way to increase effective sample size:
> - increase the number of iterations
> - use a prior with better properties
> - change your model somehow (you might not always want to use that one...)
>
> In your case, using a slightly more informative prior and the extended parameters prior might help? Something like:
>
> priori <- list(R=list(V=diag(2), nu=1, fix=2),
>                G=list(G1=list(V=diag(2)/2, nu=2, alpha.mu=c(0,0), alpha.V=diag(2)*1000)),
>                                                  G2=list(V=diag(2)/2, nu=2, alpha.mu=c(0,0), alpha.V=diag(2)*1000))))
>
> Hope this helps,
> Pierre.
>
> On Wednesday, 25 October 2017 18:45:46 NZDT dani wrote:
> > Dear list members,
> >
> > I need some advice regarding this ZIP MCMCglmm model:
> >
> > library(MCMCglmm)
> >
> > priori <- list(R=list(V=diag(2), nu=0.002,fix=2),
> >                G=list(G1=list(V=diag(2), n=2),G2=list(V=diag(2), n=2)))
> >
> > mj <- MCMCglmm(y ~ trait - 1 + at.level(trait,1):(x1+x2+x3+x4+ x5 +x6+x7+ offset),
> >                   random = ~idh(trait):group1 + idh(trait):group2,
> >                   family = "zipoisson",
> >                   prior = priori,
> >                   rcov = ~idh(trait):units,
> >                verbose=FALSE,
> >                thin   = 100,
> >                burnin = 3000,
> >                nitt   = 103000,
> >                saveX=TRUE, saveZ=TRUE, saveXL=TRUE, pr=TRUE, pl=FALSE,
> >                data = s25h)
> >
> > summary(mj)
> >
> > # Iterations = 3001:102901
> > # Thinning interval  = 100
> > # Sample size  = 1000
> > #
> > # DIC: 4811.791
> > #
> > # G-structure:  ~idh(trait):group1
> > #
> > #                                post.mean l-95% CI u-95% CI eff.samp
> > # traity.group1       0.4307   0.1351   0.9281    10.17
> > # traitzi_y. group1  4.3196   2.1216   7.4310    31.26
> > #
> > # ~idh(trait):group2
> > #
> > #                              post.mean l-95% CI u-95% CI eff.samp
> > # traity. group2       0.4233   0.2341   0.6781    30.81
> > # traitzi_y. group2    3.5497   1.2365   6.1525    26.39
> > #
> > # R-structure:  ~idh(trait):units
> > #
> > #                            post.mean l-95% CI u-95% CI eff.samp
> > # traity.units      0.02393 0.002833  0.06621    10.58
> > # traitzi_y.units   1.00000 1.000000  1.00000     0.00
> > #
> > # Location effects: y ~ trait - 1 + at.level(trait, 1):(x1 + x2 + x3 + x4 + x5 + x6 + x7 + offset)
> > #
> > #                                                            post.mean   l-95% CI   u-95% CI eff.samp  pMCMC
> > # traity                                               -4.3823820 -6.1496186 -2.6424402   23.592 <0.001 ***
> > # traitzi_y                                           3.4696204  2.6430476  4.1392235    1.922 <0.001 ***
> > # at.level(trait, 1):x1                         -0.0498043 -0.2192051  0.1097667   16.979  0.522
> > # at.level(trait, 1):x2M                     -0.2088408 -0.4535085  0.0440055    8.727  0.088 .
> > # at.level(trait, 1):x31                       0.1422342 -0.1473884  0.4199985   11.521  0.288
> > # at.level(trait, 1):x4                         0.0007054 -0.0030953  0.0043456   24.299  0.680
> > # at.level(trait, 1):x5                         0.1131704  0.0647184  0.1676469   26.621 <0.001 ***
> > # at.level(trait, 1):x6                        -0.0128734 -0.0483344  0.0306350   13.599  0.588
> > # at.level(trait, 1):x7                         0.0102356 -0.0276141  0.0540893   40.746  0.680
> > # at.level(trait, 1):offset                   1.3511873  0.6963525  2.1299075   13.216 <0.001 ***
> > #   ---
> > #   Signif. codes:  0 �***� 0.001 �**� 0.01 �*� 0.05 �.� 0.1 � � 1
> >
> > I would like to increase my effective samples, but I am not sure which way to go. I tried increasing the NITT to 503000, but the effective samples actually got worse. Is there anything else I could do? I plan on dropping some variables from the model, but if I were to proceed with the model above, what could I have done better?
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> > DNM
> > <http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
> >
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