[R-sig-ME] random effects CIs

Phillip Alday phillip.alday at mpi.nl
Mon Aug 28 10:34:34 CEST 2017


Hi Greg,

I haven't checked your code for correctness, but the pattern you've
found is typical. I don't know if there is a "best" answer, but broader
confidence intervals are more conservative and so should have better
coverage, if that's what you're going for.  The biggest difference for 
use.u=FALSE is how the random effects are handled, from the Details for
?bootMer:

>  If ‘use.u’ is ‘FALSE’ and ‘type’ is ‘"parametric"’, each
>  simulation generates new values of both the “_spherical_”
>  random effects u and the i.i.d. errors epsilon, using
>  ‘rnorm()’ with parameters corresponding to the fitted model
>  ‘x’.
>
>  If ‘use.u’ is ‘TRUE’ and ‘type=="parametric"’, only the
>  i.i.d. errors (or, for GLMMs, response values drawn from the
>  appropriate distributions) are resampled, with the values of
>  u staying fixed at their estimated values.

In other words, use.u=FALSE generates new levels of the random effects,
so in the case of Dyestuff, it simulates new, unseen Batches based on
the estimates of the between-Batch variance. In the use.u=TRUE case, it
re-uses the observed Batches and just simulates the observation-level /
residual error.  So, the use.u=FALSE case introduces "new" variation /
models additional variation and has broader confidence intervals. If I'm
not mistaken, this is related to the difference between prediction and
confidence intervals.

Best,
Phillip



On 08/21/2017 10:21 PM, Greg Dropkin wrote:
> Dear list
>
> apologies if these questions have already been answered here - if so just
> point me to them.
>
> Am I implementing these 4 approaches to CIs for the random effects
> correctly (for Dyestuff), and if so, which is best (or is "best"
> meaningless)? bootMer use.u=FALSE seems to be recommended in the lme4
> manual, but gives quite different results to the other 3 which are roughly
> comparable. Is there a better way?
>
> thanks
>
> Greg Dropkin
>
> --
>
> library(lme4)
> library(lattice)
> library(boot)
> library(R2jags)
>
> #1
> #as in Ch 1 of Douglas Bates' book on lme4:
> fm01<-lmer(Yield~1+(1|Batch),data=Dyestuff)
> dotplot(ranef(fm01,condVar=TRUE))
>
> attr(ranef(fm01,condVar=TRUE)$Batch,"postVar")
> #all the same
> sd1<-attr(ranef(fm01,condVar=TRUE)$Batch,"postVar")[[1]]^0.5
> sd1
> #the estimates are ranef(fm01), and the CIs shown in the dotplot are +/-
> sd1*qnorm(0.975)
> #e.g. for Batch A:
> ranef(fm01)$Batch[1,]
> ranef(fm01)$Batch[1,]+c(-1,1)*sd1*qnorm(0.975)
>
> #2
> #as recommended in the lme4 manual
> #bootMer with use.u=FALSE
> g<-function(.) ranef(.)$Batch[1,]
> bootg<-bootMer(fm01,g,seed=1,nsim=1000,use.u=FALSE,.progress="txt",PBarg=list(style=3))
> boot.ci(bootg,type=c("norm","basic","perc"))
>
> #3
> #bootMer with use.u=TRUE
> bootgu<-bootMer(fm01,g,seed=1,nsim=1000,use.u=TRUE,.progress="txt",PBarg=list(style=3))
> boot.ci(bootgu,type=c("norm","basic","perc"))
>
> #4
> #R2jags
> I<-1:30
> J<-1+floor((I-1)/5)
>
> zY<-with(Dyestuff,(Yield-mean(Yield))/sd(Yield))
> sdY<-with(Dyestuff,sd(Yield))
>
> mod1.data<-list("zY","I","J")
> mod1.parameters<-c("Con.adj","a.adj","mu.a","sigma.a","sig")
>
> mod1.mod<-function()
> {
> Con.adj<-Con+mean(a[])
> for (j in 1:6)
> {
> a[j]~dnorm(mu.a,1/sigma.a^2)
> a.adj[j]<-a[j]-mean(a[])
> }
>
> for (i in I)
> {
> zY[i]~dnorm(lp[i],1/sig^2)
> lp[i]<-Con+a[J[i]]
> }
> Con~dnorm(0,0.000001)
> mu.a~dnorm(0,0.0001)
> sigma.a~dunif(0,100)
> sig~dunif(0,100)
> }
>
> set.seed(1)
> mod1.mod.fit<-jags(data=mod1.data, inits=NULL,
> parameters.to.save=mod1.parameters, n.chains=3, n.iter=50000,
> n.burnin=10000, model.file=mod1.mod)
> mod1.mod.fit
> mat1<-mod1.mod.fit$BUGSoutput$sims.matrix
>
> mean(mat1[,1]+mat1[,2])*sdY
> quantile(mat1[,1]+mat1[,2],c(0.025,0.975))*sdY
>
> #comparison
>
> cim<-matrix(0,8,3)
> rownames(cim)<-c("conditional sd","bootMer use.u=F norm","bootMer use.u=F
> basic","bootMer use.u=F perc","bootMer use.u=T norm","bootMer use.u=T
> basic","bootMer use.u=T perc","jags")
> colnames(cim)<-c("estimate","low","high")
> cim[1:7,1]<-ranef(fm01)$Batch[1,]
> cim[1,2:3]<-ranef(fm01)$Batch[1,]+c(-1,1)*sd1*qnorm(0.975)
> cim[2,2:3]<-boot.ci(bootg,type=c("norm","basic","perc"))$norm[,2:3]
> cim[3,2:3]<-boot.ci(bootg,type=c("norm","basic","perc"))$basic[,4:5]
> cim[4,2:3]<-boot.ci(bootg,type=c("norm","basic","perc"))$perc[,4:5]
> cim[5,2:3]<-boot.ci(bootgu,type=c("norm","basic","perc"))$norm[,2:3]
> cim[6,2:3]<-boot.ci(bootgu,type=c("norm","basic","perc"))$basic[,4:5]
> cim[7,2:3]<-boot.ci(bootgu,type=c("norm","basic","perc"))$perc[,4:5]
> cim[8,1]<-mean(mat1[,1]+mat1[,2])*sdY
> cim[8,2:3]<-quantile(mat1[,1]+mat1[,2],c(0.025,0.975))*sdY
>
> cim
>
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