[R-sig-ME] correlated samples

[Thierry Onkelinx]

Dear Joaquin,

Yes. I think you have found a typo. The prior to equation 5.13 should read "It
is relatively easy to show that $Y_i$ is normally distributed ..."

Best regards,

ir. Thierry Onkelinx
Instituut voor natuur- en bosonderzoek / Research Institute for Nature and
Forest
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2016-07-11 21:36 GMT+02:00 Joaquín Aldabe <joaquin.aldabe op gmail.com>:

> Sorrry, I hadn´t copied the whole group. Here it goes: Thanks Thierry,
>> I´ve been there a couple of times. I´ll try again. I think there is a
>> mistake in page 112 when says: It is relatively easy to show that Vi is
>> normally distributed with mean X i × β and variance V i in mathematical
>> notation...
>>
>> It should say Yi instead of Vi, right?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Joaquín .
>>
>> 2016-07-08 9:02 GMT-03:00 Thierry Onkelinx <thierry.onkelinx op inbo.be>:
>>
>>> Dear Joaquin,
>>>
>>> I'd recommend Zuur et al 2009, section 5.4
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> ir. Thierry Onkelinx
>>> Instituut voor natuur- en bosonderzoek / Research Institute for Nature
>>> and Forest
>>> team Biometrie & Kwaliteitszorg / team Biometrics & Quality Assurance
>>> Kliniekstraat 25
>>> 1070 Anderlecht
>>> Belgium
>>>
>>> To call in the statistician after the experiment is done may be no more
>>> than asking him to perform a post-mortem examination: he may be able to say
>>> what the experiment died of. ~ Sir Ronald Aylmer Fisher
>>> The plural of anecdote is not data. ~ Roger Brinner
>>> The combination of some data and an aching desire for an answer does not
>>> ensure that a reasonable answer can be extracted from a given body of data.
>>> ~ John Tukey
>>>
>>> 2016-07-07 20:17 GMT+02:00 Joaquín Aldabe <joaquin.aldabe op gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Dear all, I´m a basic user of mixed models but there are things that
>>>> I´ve
>>>> found hard to understand. On of these is how the model solves the
>>>> correlations among samples taken in the same site or levels of other
>>>> kind
>>>> of grouping variable.
>>>>
>>>> I´ve consulted Bolker (2015) in G. Fox et al Ed., Zuur et al 2009 and
>>>> part
>>>> of Pinheiro and Bates (2000). But still don´t understand the way that
>>>> GLMM
>>>> include the correlation effect in the predictions of the model.
>>>>
>>>> I really appreciate any comment and/or bibliographic reference that
>>>> help me
>>>> understand this.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advanced,
>>>> Joaquín.
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> *Joaquín Aldabe*
>>
>> *Grupo Biodiversidad, Ambiente y Sociedad*
>> Centro Universitario de la Región Este, Universidad de la República
>> Ruta 15 (y Ruta 9), Km 28.500, Departamento de Rocha
>>
>> *Departamento de Conservación*
>> Aves Uruguay
>> BirdLife International
>> Canelones 1164, Montevideo
>>
>> https://sites.google.com/site/joaquin.aldabe
>> <https://sites.google.com/site/perfilprofesionaljoaquinaldabe>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *Joaquín Aldabe*
>
> *Grupo Biodiversidad, Ambiente y Sociedad*
> Centro Universitario de la Región Este, Universidad de la República
> Ruta 15 (y Ruta 9), Km 28.500, Departamento de Rocha
>
> *Departamento de Conservación*
> Aves Uruguay
> BirdLife International
> Canelones 1164, Montevideo
>
> https://sites.google.com/site/joaquin.aldabe
> <https://sites.google.com/site/perfilprofesionaljoaquinaldabe>
>
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