[R-sig-ME] "Non-positive definite approximate variance-covariance" output

Jacob Bukoski jbukoski1 at gmail.com
Thu Feb 18 18:33:57 CET 2016


​Great -- that makes sense. Thank you!

Jacob​


On Feb 17, 2016 3:44 PM, "Douglas Bates" <bates at stat.wisc.edu> wrote:

> The standard errors are for the fixed-effects parameters.  The apVar
> component includes approximate variances of the estimators of (functions
> of) the variance components, which is where the positive-definiteness
> failure may be occurring..
>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:28 PM Jacob Bukoski <jbukoski1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I was in a discussion with my advisor today, and the issue of
>> "non-positive
>> definite approximate variance-covariance" errors in R when using the lme()
>> function arose.
>>
>> Depending on the varFunc specification that I use, I receive the
>> "non-positive definite approximate variance-covariance" output when
>> calling
>> myModel$apVar -- however, there are standard errors returned for my model
>> coefficients in the model summary.
>>
>> My understanding is that if the variance-covariance cannot be
>> approximated,
>> neither should the standard errors... how is the lme() function returning
>> standard errors without a variance-covariance approximation?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Jacob
>>
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