[R-sig-ME] profile and/or bootstrapped CIs for GAMM random effects

[Ben Bolker]

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  This looks like it could get ugly, we might have to call on Simon
Wood.  I've posted it as https://github.com/lme4/lme4/issues/333 , but
I think it's really a gamm4 problem or at least a gamm4/lme4
communication problem.  The part of the problem I've been able to
identify so far is that the @call slot of the $mer part of the gamm4
object does *not* look like a normal lme4 call, which causes problems
(much farther down) where we use update() to try to reconstruct a
version of the model that is just a deviance function.  Getting a
deviance function back from a glmerMod object in a more
straightforward way is something that's been on our list ...

  Ben Bolker


On 15-09-01 06:51 PM, John Morrongiello wrote:
> Hi all I thought I'd re-post this message from last week as it may
> have got lost in the weekend traffic:
> 
> I'm having trouble estimating CIs for random effects (i.e. CODE)
> from a gamm4 model fit with a gamma distribution, My model is:
> 
> c1<-gamm4((longdist)~s(time,k=4),random=~(1|CODE),data=catfish1,family=Gamma(link=log))
>
> 
confint(c1$mer,method="profile")
> ##this returns Error in mkMerMod(rho = environment(devfun), opt =
> opt, reTrms = b$reTrms,  : unused argument (devFunOnly = TRUE)
> 
> confint(c1$mer,method="boot") ##this returns Error in
> mkNewReTrms(object, newdata, compReForm, na.action = na.action,  : 
> random effects specified in re.form that were not present in
> original model Are these errors arising because I'm using a gamma
> distribution? Is there another way to get the random effect CIs?
> 
> I can get random effect CIs for the following model: 
> c2<-gamm4((longdist)~s(time,k=4),random=~(1|CODE),data=catfish1,family=gaussian)
>
>  confint(c2$mer,method="profile")##works 
> confint(c2$mer,method="boot")##same error message as above
> 
> Thanks for your time John
> 
> -- Dr. John R. Morrongiello School of BioSciences University of
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