[R-sig-ME] Question on mixed effects model syntax and lack of p-values in lme4 summary

Richard Friedman friedman at cancercenter.columbia.edu
Mon May 30 23:06:26 CEST 2011


Dear R-sig-mixed-model-list,

	I am a beginner in mixed-effects models. I wish to do a mixed effects  
anova analysis with
treatment as the fixed effect and mouse and field as the random  
effect, I am not sure of the syntax of
the commands involved neither of which gives p-values. Here is a  
record of my session:

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 > library(lme4)
Loading required package: Matrix
Loading required package: lattice

Attaching package: 'Matrix'

The following object(s) are masked from 'package:base':

     det


Attaching package: 'lme4'

The following object(s) are masked from 'package:stats':

     AIC, BIC

 > data<-read.table("mixinp.txt",header=T,sep="\t")
 > data
    treatment mouse field         y
1          A     1     1  88.70659
2          A     1     2  83.85923
3          A     2     1  89.22233
4          A     2     2  73.78000
5          A     3     1  73.60307
6          A     3     2  76.53985
7          A     4     1  68.97187
8          A     4     2  70.39560
9          A     5     1  83.85923
10         A     5     2  88.70659
11         B     1     1 111.60902
12         B     1     2 113.25638
13         B     2     1 131.72738
14         B     2     2 124.26105
15         B     3     1 126.82843
16         B     3     2 134.61614
17         B     4     1 123.26297
18         B     4     2 112.42667
19         B     5     1 127.35469
20         B     5     2 140.14831
21         C     1     1  97.12810
22         C     1     2 116.70144
23         C     2     1 112.01635
24         C     2     2 108.07211
25         C     3     1 103.34168
26         C     3     2 109.22591
27         C     4     1 121.31415
28         C     4     2 109.22591
29         D     1     1 113.85043
30         D     1     2 120.03858
31         D     2     1 120.42591
32         D     2     2 123.36211
33         D     3     1 137.63444
34         D     3     2 127.88533
35         D     4     1 136.41102
36         D     4     2 133.44557
 > dim(data)
[1] 36  4
 > attach(data)
 > mouse<-factor(mouse)
 > mouse
  [1] 1 1 2 2 3 3 4 4 5 5 1 1 2 2 3 3 4 4 5 5 1 1 2 2 3 3 4 4 1 1 2 2  
3 3 4 4
Levels: 1 2 3 4 5
 > treatment<-factor(treatment)
 > treatment
  [1] A A A A A A A A A A B B B B B B B B B B C C C C C C C C D D D D  
D D D D
Levels: A B C D
 > model1<-lmer(y~treatment+(1|treatment/mouse))
 > summary(model1)
Linear mixed model fit by REML
Formula: y ~ treatment + (1 | treatment/mouse)
    AIC   BIC logLik deviance REMLdev
  246.3 257.4 -116.2    252.3   232.3
Random effects:
  Groups          Name        Variance Std.Dev.
  mouse:treatment (Intercept) 38.136   6.1755
  treatment       (Intercept) 11.737   3.4260
  Residual                    39.625   6.2948
Number of obs: 36, groups: mouse:treatment, 18; treatment, 4

Fixed effects:
             Estimate Std. Error t value
(Intercept)   79.764      4.829  16.519
treatmentB    44.785      6.829   6.558
treatmentC    29.864      7.038   4.243
treatmentD    46.867      7.038   6.659

Correlation of Fixed Effects:
            (Intr) trtmnB trtmnC
treatmentB -0.707
treatmentC -0.686  0.485
treatmentD -0.686  0.485  0.471

 > model2<-lmer(y~treatment+(1|mouse:treatment))
 > summary(model2)
Linear mixed model fit by REML
Formula: y ~ treatment + (1 | mouse:treatment)
    AIC   BIC logLik deviance REMLdev
  244.3 253.8 -116.2    249.7   232.3
Random effects:
  Groups          Name        Variance Std.Dev.
  mouse:treatment (Intercept) 38.136   6.1755
  Residual                    39.625   6.2948
Number of obs: 36, groups: mouse:treatment, 18

Fixed effects:
             Estimate Std. Error t value
(Intercept)   79.764      3.404  23.431
treatmentB    44.785      4.814   9.303
treatmentC    29.864      5.106   5.848
treatmentD    46.867      5.106   9.178

Correlation of Fixed Effects:
            (Intr) trtmnB trtmnC
treatmentB -0.707
treatmentC -0.667  0.471
treatmentD -0.667  0.471  0.444
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 > sessionInfo()
R version 2.13.0 (2011-04-13)
Platform: i386-apple-darwin9.8.0/i386 (32-bit)

locale:
[1] en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/C/C/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8

attached base packages:
[1] stats     graphics  grDevices utils     datasets  methods   base

other attached packages:
[1] lme4_0.999375-39   Matrix_0.999375-50 lattice_0.19-23

loaded via a namespace (and not attached):
[1] grid_2.13.0   nlme_3.1-100  stats4_2.13.0
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I have the following questions:

1. Is model1 or model 2 correct? or is neither correct/
2. I do not get p-values. Is there a way to get p-values for this  
analysis with a mixed effects model?
3. Does it seem as if I am doing anything incorrect/

Thanks and best wishes,
Rich
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