[R-sig-ME] [R] nlme formula from model specification

ONKELINX, Thierry Thierry.ONKELINX at inbo.be
Thu Sep 2 17:04:34 CEST 2010


Dear Mikkel,

I really liked Zuur et al (2009). It requires less mathematical skills to read than Pinheiro and Bates.

@BOOK{ZuurMixedModels,
  title = {Mixed Effects Models and Extensions in Ecology with R},
  publisher = {Springer New York},
  year = {2009},
  author = {Zuur, Alain F. and Ieno, Elena N. and Walker, Neil J. and Saveliev,
	Anatoly A. and Smith, Graham M.},
  doi = {10.1007/978-0-387-87458-6},
  owner = {thierry_onkelinx},
  timestamp = {2009.11.30}
}

Best regards,

Thierry

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> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Mikkel Meyer Andersen [mailto:mikl at mikl.dk] 
> Verzonden: donderdag 2 september 2010 14:21
> Aan: ONKELINX, Thierry
> CC: r-help at r-project.org; r-sig-mixed-models at r-project.org
> Onderwerp: Re: [R] nlme formula from model specification
> 
> Dear Thierry,
> 
> Thanks for the quick answer. I'm moving this to 
> r-sig-mixed-models (but also posting on r-help to notify).
> 
> I reserved "Mixed-effects models in S and S-PLUS" by Pinheiro 
> and Bates, New York : Springer, 2000. Do you know any other 
> good references?
> 
> Cheers, Mikkel.
> 
> 2010/9/2 ONKELINX, Thierry <Thierry.ONKELINX at inbo.be>:
> > Dear Mikkel,
> >
> > You need to do some reading on terminology.
> >
> > In your model the fixed effects are channel 1, 2 and 3. 
> samplenumber 
> > is a random effect and the error term is an error term
> >
> > The model you described has the notation below. You do not need to 
> > create the grouped data structure.
> >
> > lme(channel0 ~ pos + samplenumber + channel1 + channel2 + channel3,
> >   random = ~ 1 | samplenumber,
> >   correlation = corAR1(value = 0.5, form = ~ pos | samplenumber),
> >   data = channel.matrix)
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Thierry
> >
> > PS There is a dedicated mailing list for mixed models:
> > R-sig-mixed-models
> >
> > 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> > ----
> > ir. Thierry Onkelinx
> > Instituut voor natuur- en bosonderzoek team Biometrie & 
> Kwaliteitszorg 
> > Gaverstraat 4 9500 Geraardsbergen Belgium
> >
> > Research Institute for Nature and Forest team Biometrics & Quality 
> > Assurance Gaverstraat 4 9500 Geraardsbergen Belgium
> >
> > tel. + 32 54/436 185
> > Thierry.Onkelinx at inbo.be
> > www.inbo.be
> >
> > To call in the statistician after the experiment is done may be no 
> > more than asking him to perform a post-mortem examination: 
> he may be 
> > able to say what the experiment died of.
> > ~ Sir Ronald Aylmer Fisher
> >
> > The plural of anecdote is not data.
> > ~ Roger Brinner
> >
> > The combination of some data and an aching desire for an 
> answer does 
> > not ensure that a reasonable answer can be extracted from a 
> given body 
> > of data.
> > ~ John Tukey
> >
> >
> >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> >> Van: r-help-bounces at r-project.org
> >> [mailto:r-help-bounces at r-project.org] Namens Mikkel Meyer Andersen
> >> Verzonden: donderdag 2 september 2010 13:30
> >> Aan: r-help at r-project.org
> >> Onderwerp: [R] nlme formula from model specification
> >>
> >> Dear R-community,
> >>
> >> I'm analysing some noise using the nlme-package. I'm 
> writing in order 
> >> to get my usage of lme verified.
> >>
> >> In practise, a number of samples have been processed by a machine 
> >> measuring the same signal at four different channels.
> >> I want to model the noise. I have taken the noise (the 
> signal is from 
> >> position 1 to 3500, and after that there is only noise).
> >>
> >> My data looks like this:
> >> channel.matrix:
> >>       pos channel0 channel1 channel2 channel3 samplenumber
> >>    1 3501        8        3       12        1            1
> >>    2 3502        3        7        0       14            1
> >>    3 3503        9        1       13        3            1
> >>    4 3504        3        7        3       14            1
> >>    5 3505        6        5        4        5            1
> >>    6 3506        7        0       16        0            1 ...
> >>  495 3995        5        2        9        9            1
> >>  496 3996        2        4        6       10            1
> >>  497 3997        3        2        7        7            1
> >>  498 3998        2        4        3        9            1
> >>  499 3999        3        1        6       11            1
> >>  500 4000        0        3        6        7            1
> >> 2301 3501        1        4        3        9            2
> >> 2302 3502        3        3        4       13            2
> >> 2303 3503        4        1        8        5            2
> >> 2304 3504        3        1       10        2            2
> >> 2305 3505        2        3        5        8            2
> >> 2306 3506        0        5        8        2            2 ...
> >>
> >> The model is
> >> channel0 ~ alpha_i + eps_{i, j} + channel1 + channel2 +
> >> channel3 where i is sample number, j is position, and:
> >>   alpha_i:                 fixed effect for each samplenumber
> >>   eps_{i, j}:              random effect, here with correlation 
> >> structure as AR(1)
> >>   channel1, ..., channel3: fixed effect for each channel not 
> >> depending on
> >>                            samplenumber nor position
> >>
> >> (And then afterwards I would model channel1 ~ ... + channel2
> >> + channel3 etc.)
> >>
> >> I then use this function call:
> >> channel.matrix.grouped <- groupedData(channel0 ~ pos |
> samplenumber,
> >>   data = channel.matrix)
> >>
> >> fit <- lme(channel0 ~ pos + samplenumber + channel1 +
> >> channel2 + channel3,
> >>   random = ~ pos | samplenumber,
> >>   correlation = corAR1(value = 0.5, form = ~ pos | samplenumber),
> >>   data = channel.matrix.grouped)
> >>
> >> Is that the right way to express the model in (n)lme-notation?
> >>
> >> Cheers, Mikkel.
> >>
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> >> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
> >>
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