[R-meta] predict error in metafor

Fatih Çelik |@t|hce||k2842 @end|ng |rom gm@||@com
Mon Mar 20 13:16:29 CET 2023


In this case I will report the following values for Qw. Is that correct sir?

Test for Residual Heterogeneity:
QE(df = 81) = 2339.8382, p-val < .0001



Sincerely…




Viechtbauer, Wolfgang (NP)
<wolfgang.viechtbauer using maastrichtuniversity.nl>, 20 Mar 2023 Pzt, 15:10
tarihinde şunu yazdı:
>
> Please do not respond just to me - always CC the list.
>
> Sorry, what I wrote is nonsense. Apparently, I haven't had enough coffee today.
>
> The F statistic replaces the **Qb** statistic.
>
> QE is the same as Qw.
>
> Best,
> Wolfgang
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Fatih Çelik [mailto:fatihcelik2842 using gmail.com]
> >Sent: Monday, 20 March, 2023 13:04
> >To: Viechtbauer, Wolfgang (NP)
> >Subject: Re: predict error in metafor
> >
> >In the articles I reviewed, both F and Qw test results are reported
> >separately (e.g., F(4, 38) = 2.8523, p = .0367; R2 = .170; Qw(38) =
> >539.9001, p < .001).
> >
> >If they are the same, why are there different values?
> >
> >Sincerely…
> >
> >Fatih Çelik <fatihcelik2842 using gmail.com>, 20 Mar 2023 Pzt, 15:02
> >tarihinde şunu yazdı:
> >>
> >> In the articles I reviewed, both F and Qw test results are reported
> >> separately (e.g., F(4, 38) = 2.8523, p = .0367; R2 = .170; QW(38) =
> >> 539.9001, p < .001).
> >>
> >> Sincerely…
> >>
> >> Viechtbauer, Wolfgang (NP)
> >> <wolfgang.viechtbauer using maastrichtuniversity.nl>, 20 Mar 2023 Pzt, 14:54
> >> tarihinde şunu yazdı:
> >> >
> >> > The F-test replaces the Qw statistic when using test="knha" (it tests the
> >same thing, but now based on the K&H method).
> >> >
> >> > Best,
> >> > Wolfgang
> >> >
> >> > >-----Original Message-----
> >> > >From: Fatih Çelik [mailto:fatihcelik2842 using gmail.com]
> >> > >Sent: Monday, 20 March, 2023 12:23
> >> > >To: Viechtbauer, Wolfgang (NP); R Special Interest Group for Meta-Analysis
> >> > >Subject: Ynt: predict error in metafor
> >> > >
> >> > > Hello, sir.
> >> > >
> >> > >As you pointed out, when I run the Knapp-Hartung test, Qw (statistic
> >> > >for testing the model misspecification) does not appear in the output.
> >> > >How can I access this value? Below I first present to you the model I
> >> > >created and then the output.
> >> > >
> >> > >Model:
> >> > >
> >> > >res1 <- rma(measure="ARAW", ai=ai, mi=mi, ni=ni, mods = ~ sample,
> >> > >test="knha", data=dat)
> >> > >
> >> > > outputs:
> >> > >
> >> > > Mixed-Effects Model (k = 85; tau^2 estimator: REML)
> >> > >
> >> > >tau^2 (estimated amount of residual heterogeneity):     0.0021 (SE = 0.0004)
> >> > >tau (square root of estimated tau^2 value):             0.0457
> >> > >I^2 (residual heterogeneity / unaccounted variability): 94.01%
> >> > >H^2 (unaccounted variability / sampling variability):   16.70
> >> > >R^2 (amount of heterogeneity accounted for):            0.00%
> >> > >
> >> > >Test for Residual Heterogeneity:
> >> > >QE(df = 83) = 2139.6714, p-val < .0001
> >> > >
> >> > >Test of Moderators (coefficient 2):
> >> > >F(df1 = 1, df2 = 83) = 0.9652, p-val = 0.3287
> >> > >
> >> > >Model Results:
> >> > >
> >> > >               estimate      se     tval  df    pval    ci.lb   ci.ub
> >> > >intrcpt          0.8286  0.0102  81.0985  83  <.0001   0.8083  0.8489  ***
> >> > >samplestudent   -0.0117  0.0119  -0.9825  83  0.3287  -0.0354  0.0120
> >> > >
> >> > >---
> >> > >Signif. codes:  0 ‘***’ 0.001 ‘**’ 0.01 ‘*’ 0.05 ‘.’ 0.1 ‘ ’ 1
> >> > >
> >> > >---
> >> > >
> >> > >Yours sincerely…
> >> > >
> >> > >Kimden: Viechtbauer, Wolfgang (NP)
> >> > >Gönderilme: 18 Mart 2023 Cumartesi 15:57
> >> > >Kime: Fatih ÇELİK; R Special Interest Group for Meta-Analysis
> >> > >Konu: RE: predict error in metafor
> >> > >
> >> > >When fitting the model, use rma(..., test="knha").
> >> > >
> >> > >P.S.: Please post in plain text, as explained here:
> >> > >
> >> > >https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-meta-analysis
> >> > >
> >> > >Best,
> >> > >Wolfgang



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