# [R-meta] aggregating effect sizes

Filippo Gambarota ||||ppo@g@mb@rot@ @end|ng |rom gm@||@com
Mon Jan 10 16:26:10 CET 2022

```Thanks, this is quite helpful. I've noticed that in my case,
aggregating with and without weighting changes the estimated effect
size noticeably. As you said this is correct because we are doing an
inverse-variance weighted average between effect sizes and I was wondering
which is the best approach. So aggregating with weighting could be
considered as a fixed-effect model that takes into account the correlation.

On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 at 16:09, Viechtbauer, Wolfgang (SP) <
wolfgang.viechtbauer using maastrichtuniversity.nl> wrote:

> When you say the 'values', do you mean the estimates themselves or their
> sampling variances?
>
> I only talked about the latter, that is, if the sampling variances within
> a set of estimates are homoscedastic, then there is no difference between
> weighting or not weighting. If the sampling variances are quite different,
> then I would typically prefer to use weighting, since that will give the
> most efficient estimate of the underlying true effect/outcome for the set.
>
> However, James Pustejovsky (cc-ed) asked me to add the 'weighted' option
> to aggregate(), because there can be circumstances where using a simple
> (unweighted) average might be preferred.
>
> If I recall, one argument goes along the following lines. Say you want to
> aggregate two effect estimates, one for male and one for female subjects.
> With weighting, the two estimates are weighted approximately proportional
> to the sample sizes within the two subgroups. However, the subgroup sizes
> within a study are just a reflection of how many male and female subjects
> the researchers were able to recruit for their study (and females tend to
> be more likely to volunteer), which doesn't reflect the population to which
> you want to make an inference (which consists of approx. equal parts of
> male and female subjects). So in that case, a simple average might be
> preferred.
>
> Best,
> Wolfgang
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Filippo Gambarota [mailto:filippo.gambarota using gmail.com]
> >Sent: Monday, 10 January, 2022 13:10
> >To: Viechtbauer, Wolfgang (SP)
> >Cc: R meta
> >Subject: Re: [R-meta] aggregating effect sizes
> >
> >Thank you Wolfgang,
> >So if I get correctly, the weighted approach should be preferred if
> values that I
> >have to aggregate are quite different? Because using the Borenstein vs
> weighted
> >method gives me quite different results, especially for the mean effect.
> >Thank you!
> >
> >On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 at 12:57, Viechtbauer, Wolfgang (SP)
> ><wolfgang.viechtbauer using maastrichtuniversity.nl> wrote:
> >Dear Filippo,
> >
> yes, if
> >you use struct='CS' (which is the default) and 'weighted=FALSE' -- the
> default in
> >aggregate() is to compute a weighted average, but Borenstein et al. only
> give the
> >equations for computing an unweighted average and its sampling variance
> (but
> >since the sampling variances of the two estimates that are being
> aggregated in
> >the book example are the same, whether one uses weighted=TRUE or FALSE
> makes no
> >difference). You can also find the corresponding code here:
> >
> >
> https://wviechtb.github.io/meta_analysis_books/borenstein2009.html#24)_Multiple_O
> >utcomes__Time-Points
> >
> >Best,
> >Wolfgang
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: R-sig-meta-analysis [mailto:
> r-sig-meta-analysis-bounces using r-project.org] On
> >>Behalf Of Filippo Gambarota
> >>Sent: Monday, 10 January, 2022 12:31
> >>To: R meta
> >>Subject: [R-meta] aggregating effect sizes
> >>
> >>Hi,
> >>In order to be sure which function to use I would like to ask if the
> >>aggregation method of multiple effect sizes with dependent sampling
> >>error suggested by Borenstein et al. (2009) is the same as what
> >>performed by the aggregate() function in metafor specifying a single
> >>correlation.
> >>In my case I have calculated pre-post effect size using Morris (2008)
> >>and then I have to combine multiple effect sizes calculated on the
> >>same pool of subjects.
> >>Thank you!
> >>
> >>--
> >>Filippo Gambarota
> >>PhD Student - University of Padova
> >>Department of Developmental and Social Psychology
> >>Website: filippogambarota
> >>Research Group: Colab   Psicostat
>

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*Filippo Gambarota*
PhD Student - University of Padova
Department of Developmental and Social Psychology
Website: filippogambarota <https://filippogambarota.netlify.app/>
Research Group: Colab <http://colab.psy.unipd.it/>   Psicostat
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