<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 17 Oct 2017, at 17:18, David Winsemius <<a href="mailto:dwinsemius@comcast.net" class="">dwinsemius@comcast.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">On Oct 17, 2017, at 7:56 AM, David Winsemius <<a href="mailto:dwinsemius@comcast.net" class="">dwinsemius@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">On Oct 17, 2017, at 1:43 AM, Rainer Krug <<a href="mailto:Rainer@krugs.de" class="">Rainer@krugs.de</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">Hi<br class=""><br class="">One question about home-brew installation:<br class=""><br class="">After upgrading to High Sierra (and update to R 3.4.2), I don’t get tcl-tk support in R.<br class=""><br class="">I get the following error:<br class=""><br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>> library(tcltk)<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Error: package or namespace load failed for ‘tcltk’:<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>.onLoad failed in loadNamespace() for 'tcltk', details:<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span> call: fun(libname, pkgname)<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span> error: Tcl/Tk support is not available on this system<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>In addition: Warning message:<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>S3 methods ‘as.character.tclObj’, ‘as.character.tclVar’, ‘as.double.tclObj’, ‘as.integer.tclObj’, ‘as.logical.tclObj’, ‘as.raw.tclObj’, ‘print.tclObj’, ‘[[.tclArray’, ‘[[<-.tclArray’, ‘$.tclArray’, ‘$<-.tclArray’, ‘names.tclArray’, ‘names<-.tclArray’, ‘length.tclArray’, ‘length<-.tclArray’, ‘tclObj.tclVar’, ‘tclObj<-.tclVar’, ‘tclvalue.default’, ‘tclvalue.tclObj’, ‘tclvalue.tclVar’, ‘tclvalue<-.default’, ‘tclvalue<-.tclVar’, ‘close.tkProgressBar’ were declared in NAMESPACE but not found<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Is this a problem on my side, or is there a problem with R & homebrew & High Sierra & tcl-tk?<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Caveat. I know almost nothing about homebrew other than its function and the fact that users of it often have problems with installing R properly. The CRAN page for the Mac R 3.4.2 fork says:<br class=""><br class="">-------begin-------<br class="">Contains R 3.4.2 framework, R.app GUI 1.70 in 64-bit for Intel Macs, Tcl/Tk 8.6.6 X11 libraries and Texinfo 5.2. The latter two components are optional and can be ommitted when choosing "custom install", they are only needed if you want to use the tcltk R package or build package documentation from sources.<br class=""></blockquote><br style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">I intended that the next sentence be here (and wan't intending two copies of those sentences):</span><br style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Note: the use of X11 (including tcltk) requires XQuartz to be installed since it is no longer part of OS X. Always re-install XQuartz when upgrading your OS X to a new major version.</span><br style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">-----end----<br class=""><br class="">So it makes me wonder if you need to add the correct versions of the underlying system packages in a manner that your homebrew installation can find them. (the 3.3 fork uses a differnt version of Tcl/Tk.)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></blockquote></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>Thanks David - but no luck. Still the same problems - even after installing quartz again.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Rainer</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class="">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">David.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">Thanks,<br class=""><br class="">Rainer<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">--<br class="">Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)<br class=""><br class="">University of Zürich<br class=""><br class="">Cell: +41 (0)78 630 66 57<br class=""><a href="mailto:Rainer@krugs.de" class="">email: Rainer@krugs.de</a><br class="">Skype: RMkrug<br class=""><br class="">PGP: 0x0F52F982<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">R-SIG-Mac mailing list<br class="">R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org<br class="">https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">David Winsemius<br class="">Alameda, CA, USA<br class=""><br class="">'Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.' -Gehm's Corollary to Clarke's Third Law<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">R-SIG-Mac mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org" class="">R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org</a><br class=""><a href="https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac" class="">https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac</a><br class=""></blockquote><br style="font-family: Menlo-Regular; 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