[R-SIG-Mac] R 4.3.1 fails on Mac OS 14

[John Helly]

Great to hear, I guess, as it bulwarks the history a bit better.
J.

On 10/4/23 15:29, Smith, Desmond wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> You are not unique in noticing the apparently random (single) 
> switching of R.app windows in previous versions of Mac OS X (Ventura).
>
> I observed the same phenomenon, but simply lived with it, despite some 
> close calls in code destruction… I had to keep my wits about me!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Des
>
> *From: *John Helly <hellyj using ucsd.edu>
> *Date: *Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 6:24 PM
> *To: *Simon Urbanek <simon.urbanek using R-project.org>, r-sig-mac R 
> <r-sig-mac using r-project.org>, William Revelle <lists using revelle.net>
> *Cc: *hellyj using ucsd.edu <hellyj using ucsd.edu>, Smith, Desmond 
> <DSmith using mednet.ucla.edu>
> *Subject: *Re: [R-SIG-Mac] R 4.3.1 fails on Mac OS 14
>
> Not to beat a dead horse, but it may be that this is the mechanism for
> the spontaneous switching I was experiencing in versions for a couple of
> years.  Don't know why I would be unique in that but it seems to have
> been the case.
>
> Just adding the observation in case it provides a puzzle piece.  The
> underlying problem could go back a while (or not).
>
> J.
>
> On 10/4/23 15:19, Simon Urbanek wrote:
> > I had a look and can reproduce it. What happens is that macOS Sonoma 
> is sending dozens of notifications that a window will close (even if 
> no window is being closed!) and since we move the focus to the next 
> window on close it happens every time macOS sends that notification 
> and thus many times in sequence. Unfortunately it is not clear why 
> Sonoma does it and it makes no sense, so some more digging will be 
> required. I have added a quick hack to simply not change focus on 
> close - it is not ideal as it doesn't address the (unknown) cause 
> which may have many more repercussions, but it lets you try it out (R 
> 4.3.x and arm64 only):
> >
> > 
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://mac.R-project.org/test/Mac-GUI-R-4.3-arm64.dmg__;!!Mih3wA!CNN2MiHDOc9DrStpvPu_tkHU8gjcUU-emPX9aYBYLNFseaGMPyuLTuGqUDCCqH-yxi6nDLsZwkVQabKItvkXTv7JoVY$ 
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> >
> > Do not use that build on other macOS systems that don't exhibit the 
> bug. There are still more known issues with Sonoma (e.g., you cannot 
> close an R document without saving), so avoid upgrading until it 
> stabilizes more. In the meantime I'll see if I can find out more about 
> the mysterious bugs in Sonoma.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Simon
> >
> >
> >> On 2/10/2023, at 5:18 AM, William Revelle <lists using revelle.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Mac users of R and developers.
> >>
> >>
> >> I recently updated to the Sonoma OS for Mac (14.0)  and it has a 
> serious problem for graphics.
> >>
> >> plot(1:10) creates a graphic window but I can not switch back to 
> the console window using either command-1 or the mouse.
> >>
> >> Anybody else having this problem?  Any suggestions for a patch?
> >>
> >> I am running a MacBook Pro with M1 Max.
> >>
> >> Bill
> >>
> >>
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