[R-SIG-Mac] R-gui slow since last update

Sat May 8 23:25:10 CEST 2021

Simon,

Yes, I tried to play with touch bar preferences, to no avail.

On the bright side, I also tested your build. Both debug and release version work. There was one NS warning in the release version, but it did not affected at all the test (I was running the same sequence as I described in the original message).

In the following transfer are the sampler files for both versions:
https://www.dropbox.com/t/xDqbbZma9i0XdHBk

I am tempted to slide the new release version to /Applicaitons and use it instead of the one shipped with the CRAN release; is it safe to do so?

Yan

On May 7, 2021, at 2:27 PM, Simon Urbanek <Simon.Urbanek using r-project.org<mailto:Simon.Urbanek using r-project.org>> wrote:

Yan,

it's ok, I didn't need the Debug version.

However, did you check the Touch Bar settings as discussed previously to see if disabling the app Touch Bar fixes the problem?
If it does, there may be hope - I have created a test version at
https://github.com/R-macos/Mac-GUI/actions/runs/820226842
at the bottom there is "R-GUI-Build" link under Artifacts which gives you a zip file with R-GUI-Build.dmg image which has both release and debug version which disable the Touch Bar for the console (built for R 4.0.x). Please let me know if that works for you.

Thanks,
Simon

On May 7, 2021, at 2:37 AM, ALPEROVYCH Yan <ALPEROVYCH using em-lyon.com> wrote:

Thank you Simon,

Brandon suggested to use the debug version of the R-gui, but you seem to be ok with what I sent. Please let me know if you also want the sampler files using the the debug version.

Also, if you need me to test the fixes / updates, please don’t hesitate.

Yan

On May 6, 2021, at 4:30 AM, Simon Urbanek <simon.urbanek using R-project.org> wrote:

Yan,

thank you for the sampler files!

From cursory glance the issue seems to be the touch bar, an amazing amount of time is spent in the Apple's touchbar API (almost all of it is in some way related to [NSTextView(NSTextView_TouchBar_API) updateTextTouchBarItems]). That also explains why I was not able to reproduce it, because I don't have a Mac with touch bar and Big Sur. I don't know what is available in the settings, but you may want to see if you can adjust your touch bar system preferences (if I recall there are different options for the touch bar) - the R GUI doesn't use the touch bar at all, so the issue is entirely at the system level. I will look is there is anything we can do to block the touch bar API on our end or otherwise deal with it by have R explicitly handle the touch bar.

Thanks,
Simon

On 4/05/2021, at 7:10 PM, ALPEROVYCH Yan <ALPEROVYCH using em-lyon.com> wrote:

Simon,

I sampled the process of my test (the slowdown). I was able to do it without downloading the "Debug" version. There are two files attached.
1. The first one (run at 8:58:14 am) is the replication of my test (the slowdown) using the external editor
2. The second (run at 9:05:09 am) is the replication of my test using the in-built editor

While doing the second sampling R also popped the red warnings (if that is useful).

I am also answering Peter’s question: my version of Big Sur is 11.3.

Let me know what else I can do to help.
Yan

On May 4, 2021, at 5:53 AM, Simon Urbanek <Simon.Urbanek using r-project.org> wrote:

Yan,

thanks for the reports. I cannot reproduce the slow-down, either (Mac mini M1, Big Sur 11.3).

However, you can help by sampling the R process and sending the sample to me. You can do that as follows:

1) open R.app
2) open Terminal (under Applications -> Utilities)
3) in Terminal type:

sample R 30

4) switch to R and perform your test. You have 30 seconds (that's the number above which specifies how long the sampler will run) to do it. In Terminal it will show the sampler output -in the beginning it will also tell you the location of the text file - it's typically /tmp/R_*.sample.txt - send that file to me.

It may not allow you to debug the released version of the GUI, so you may need to download the "Debug" version of the GUI (scroll down) from

https://mac.R-project.org

You should pick the
Mac OS X GUI rev.XXX for R 4.0.x
high-sierra-Release.dmg
download if you have R 4.0.x. You don't need to install the GUI, you can run it directly from the image so it won't affect your installed version.

Thanks,
Simon

PS: you may need to install Xcode command line tools if you didn't already:
sudo xcode-select --install

On 4/05/2021, at 3:06 AM, ALPEROVYCH Yan <ALPEROVYCH using em-lyon.com> wrote:

Dear Peter, Simon,

Since I am not that of an expert in programming, is there any way to trace what happens 'under the hood' of the gui to see what exactly slows down the rendering of output on my end?

On the warnings, some more came today. How that happened and the text that came out are below.

Thank you for your help,
Yan

I looked at the Preferences -> Editor (once the window popped up, I clicked on the Editor with a mouse and the error came).
...
2021-05-03 16:50:36.184 R[73442:2450140] Warning: Expected min height of view: (<NSPopoverTouchBarItemButton: 0x7ffd104c17b0>) to be less than or equal to 30 but got a height of 32.000000. This error will be logged once per view in violation.
2021-05-03 16:50:36.186 R[73442:2450140] Warning: Expected min height of view: (<NSPopoverTouchBarItemButton: 0x7ffd09dde780>) to be less than or equal to 30 but got a height of 32.000000. This error will be logged once per view in violation.
…

In another instance, hitting cmd-n (new native editor window) gave me this:
...
2021-05-03 16:59:03.469 R[73442:2450140] Warning: Expected min height of view: (<NSPopoverTouchBarItemButton: 0x7ffd1075a9b0>) to be less than or equal to 30 but got a height of 32.000000. This error will be logged once per view in violation.
2021-05-03 16:59:03.471 R[73442:2450140] Warning: Expected min height of view: (<NSPopoverTouchBarItemButton: 0x7ffd1075c140>) to be less than or equal to 30 but got a height of 32.000000. This error will be logged once per view in violation.
2021-05-03 16:59:22.225 R[73442:2450140] Warning: Expected min height of view: (<NSPopoverTouchBarItemButton: 0x7ffd1270c2e0>) to be less than or equal to 30 but got a height of 32.000000. This error will be logged once per view in violation.
2021-05-03 16:59:22.226 R[73442:2450140] Warning: Expected min height of view: (<NSPopoverTouchBarItemButton: 0x7ffd1270d070>) to be less than or equal to 30 but got a height of 32.000000. This error will be logged once per view in violation.
…

When in native editor, I hit cmd-w (popping the save file request) gave me this:
...
2021-05-03 16:59:24.024 R[73442:2450140] Warning: Expected min height of view: (<NSButton: 0x7ffd1271c7a0>) to be less than or equal to 30 but got a height of 32.000000. This error will be logged once per view in violation.
...

On May 2, 2021, at 11:03 AM, peter dalgaard <pdalgd using gmail.com<mailto:pdalgd using gmail.com>> wrote:

2019 MB Air here, Big Sur, 4.0.5 off CRAN. I don't see the issue either. (I do see the "...warmup" thing, though.)

- Peter D.

On 1 May 2021, at 21:01 , ALPEROVYCH Yan <ALPEROVYCH using em-lyon.com<mailto:ALPEROVYCH using em-lyon.com>> wrote:

Thank you Simon,

Regarding the "NS..." warnings, the following came just now when I closed the plot window (after a ggplot) with a mouse.

2021-05-01 20:53:35.117 R[2344:57535] +[NSSavePanel _warmUp] attempted warmup

Since they are usually random, I will log them for some time, and report back.

Yan

On May 1, 2021, at 7:00 AM, Simon Urbanek <simon.urbanek using R-project.org<mailto:simon.urbanek using R-project.org><mailto:simon.urbanek using R-project.org>> wrote:

Yan,

Thank you for the report, comments inline.

On May 1, 2021, at 03:56, ALPEROVYCH Yan <ALPEROVYCH using em-lyon.com<mailto:ALPEROVYCH using em-lyon.com><mailto:ALPEROVYCH using em-lyon.com>> wrote:

Dear all,

Beyond the occasional red warnings about the 'NSPop….' buttons, warmups, etc. and similar issues reported elsewhere here I’ve noted the slowdown of R console with more and more output. Here is what I do to reliably reproduced it on my machine - MacBook Pro 2017 with Touch Bar (sessionInfo() is below).

There are no known issues in R 4.0.5 so if you see any please report them.

1. Start fresh R-gui

2. Paste the following text in the editor. Note that lines are commented, this is enough to show the problem. It obvisouly gets worse if R has to evaluate.

# m[[ 1]] <- .f(update(fml, . ~ . -x1 + x2))
# m[[ 2]] <- .f(update(fml, . ~ . -x1 + x2 + x3))
# m[[ 3]] <- .f(update(fml, . ~ . -x1 + x2 + x4))
# m[[ 4]] <- .f(update(fml, . ~ . -x1 + x2 + x5))
# m[[ 5]] <- .f(update(fml, . ~ . -x1 + x2 + x6))
# m[[ 6]] <- .f(update(fml, . ~ . -x1 + x2 + x7))
# m[[ 7]] <- .f(update(fml, . ~ . -x1 + x2 + x8))
# m[[ 8]] <- .f(update(fml, . ~ . -x1 + x2 + x9))
# m[[ 9]] <- .f(update(fml, . ~ . -x1 + x2 + x10))
# m[[10]] <- .f(update(fml, . ~ . -x1 + x2 + x11))

3. Execute as block once - the output appears almost immediately. Execute the second time - the slight delay is already noticeable. Continue to 3-4 time and the delay between the Cmd+Enter and the output is now up to 3-4 seconds and occasional beachball…

Thanks, I only have Catalina here and it does not exhibit that behaviour, the execution is always immediate. I'll try on the M1 Big Sur machine on Monday.

Thanks,
Simon

Any help is greatly appreciated.
Yan

Here is the sessionInfo()

******
R version 4.0.5 (2021-03-31)
Platform: x86_64-apple-darwin17.0 (64-bit)
Running under: macOS Big Sur 10.16

Matrix products: default
BLAS:   /Library/Frameworks/R.framework/Versions/4.0/Resources/lib/libRblas.dylib
LAPACK: /Library/Frameworks/R.framework/Versions/4.0/Resources/lib/libRlapack.dylib

locale:
[1] en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/C/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8

attached base packages:
[1] stats     graphics  grDevices utils     datasets  methods   base

loaded via a namespace (and not attached):
[1] compiler_4.0.5

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