[R-SIG-Mac] Problems with Rcmdr via XQuartz on OSX Mavericks
John Fox
jfox at mcmaster.ca
Wed Nov 20 23:16:15 CET 2013
Dear Peter,
Thank you for fielding this question.
For the time-being, and pending a more general resolution in R.app, I'll add a note to this effect in the Rcmdr installation notes.
Best,
John
On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 22:53:11 +0100
peter dalgaard <pdalgd at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 20 Nov 2013, at 22:24 , Manuel Spínola <mspinola10 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thank you very much John.
> >
> > How can I run R and Rcmdr in a terminal window?
> >
>
> [Kids these days...]
>
> Just open the Terminal application (it’s in the Utilities subfolder of the Applications folder) and type R at its prompt. Then library(Rcmdr) at the R prompt.
>
> -pd
>
> > Best,
> >
> > Manuel
> >
> >
> > 2013/11/20 John Fox <jfox at mcmaster.ca>
> >
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> I was able to reproduce the problem on my Macbook and believe I have a
> >> solution, which is to run R and the Rcmdr in a terminal window. When I did
> >> this, the Rcmdr behaved normally. I'll investigate further and report my
> >> findings back to the list.
> >>
> >> I'm copying this message to Simon Urbanek who maintains R.app in case he
> >> has insight into the problem.
> >>
> >> I'm also interested whether running R from a terminal window solves the
> >> problem for others who experienced it.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> John
> >>
> >> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:19:04 -0500
> >> "John Fox" <jfox at mcmaster.ca> wrote:
> >>> Dear Jonathan et al,
> >>>
> >>> First, thank you to all who responded. As I said, I haven't noticed this
> >> problem myself, but I'll try again on my Mac later today when I have some
> >> time and see whether I can reproduce it. I suspect that this is a
> >> tcltk-related issue, not specific to the Rcmdr, but I don't know that for
> >> sure.
> >>>
> >>> In the meantime, here are two things to try:
> >>>
> >>> (1) Reijo Sund suggested trying to run R and the Rcmdr from the command
> >> line (i.e., in a terminal window), to see whether the problem manifests
> >> itself there. The Rcmdr doesn't need R.app.
> >>>
> >>> (2) It's possible that the slowdown is caused by the way that the Rcmdr
> >> handles R Markdown documents. The overhead gets greater as the session
> >> proceeds. To test this possibility, you could suppress the R Markdown tab
> >> (via the Rcmdr Tools -> Options menu, Output tab -- uncheck the box for R
> >> Markdown) and see whether the problem disappears.
> >>>
> >>> Please let me know what happens.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> John
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:41:28 -0600
> >>> Jonathan Chapman <petsrme2 at icloud.com> wrote:
> >>>> I upgraded to XQuartz 2.7.5, but it still lags.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jonathan M. Chapman, DVM
> >>>> 312-813-1166
> >>>> petsrme2 at icloud.com
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Manuel Spínola <mspinola10 at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I also have the same experience (like Jonathan) with Rcmdr in Mac
> >> with Mavericks. After few minutes Rcmdr starts to have time lags. I
> >> updated to XQuartz 2.7.5 but the behavior is the same.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Manuel
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2013/11/20 Reijo Sund <reijo.sund at helsinki.fi>
> >>>>>> So far I have not had problems with XQuartz, but similar slow-down
> >> occasionally happens while using tcltk-applications with the Aqua version
> >> of Tcl/Tk (ActiveTcl 8.6.x binary distribution). Unfortunately I have not
> >> been able to create a reproducible example.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Anyhow, if XQuartz update won’t help, maybe it is worth checking if
> >> there is any difference while using R.app or command-line R.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> - - -
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Prof Brian Ripley <ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Just checking: which version of XQuartz?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Although I have not experienced any problems, people recommended
> >> updating to 2.7.5 and I got prompted to do that yesterday (it was released
> >> last week).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 20/11/2013 11:52, John Fox wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Dear Jonathan,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'm afraid that I don't know why you're experiencing this
> >> problem. I upgraded my own Mac to Mavericks and the Rcmdr still appears to
> >> work fine. Also, no one else has reported this problem to me, which of
> >> course doesn't mean that no one else has experienced it.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I don't doubt that something is wrong on your system but I don't
> >> know what it might be. You've already reinstalled all of the relevant
> >> software, which is what I would have suggested.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'm copying this response to the R Mac OS X email list in case
> >> someone who reads the list has a suggestion or, perhaps, has also
> >> experienced the problem.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'm sorry that I can't be of more help at this time.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> John
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 00:19:54 -0600
> >>>>>>>> Jonathan Chapman <petsrme2 at icloud.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Dr. Fox,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I am an MPH student at the University of Minnesota. I was
> >> referred to you by Dr. Ann Brearley because I am having issues running
> >> Rcmdr in XQuartz since upgrading to OSX Mavericks. Rcmdr runs slowly,
> >> more-so as a lag, after an initial 1-2 minutes of use. Prior to that 1-2
> >> minutes of use and the subsequent lag in performance, Rcmdr runs perfectly
> >> fine via XQuartz. Once closing out XQuartz and restarting it, Rcmdr runs
> >> fine until after 1-2 minutes of use when the lag sets in again.
> >>>>>>>>> I’ve tried to remedy the situation prior to contacting you.
> >> First, I reinstalled XQuartz. When that failed to solve the problem, I
> >> reinstalled XQuartz along with R and Rcmdr. That attempt also failed. I
> >> do not know what else to do or who/where else to turn.
> >>>>>>>>> Do you have any incite? Have you heard of anyone else
> >> encountering this problem?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Jonathan M. Chapman, DVM
> >>>>>>>>> 312-813-1166
> >>>>>>>>> petsrme2 at icloud.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Manuel Spínola, Ph.D.
> >>>>> Instituto Internacional en Conservación y Manejo de Vida Silvestre
> >>>>> Universidad Nacional
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> >>>>> Heredia
> >>>>> COSTA RICA
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> >>>>> mspinola10 at gmail.com
> >>>>> Teléfono: (506) 2277-3598
> >>>>> Fax: (506) 2237-7036
> >>>>> Personal website: Lobito de río
> >>>>> Institutional website: ICOMVIS
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------
> >> John Fox
> >> McMaster University
> >> Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
> >> http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > *Manuel Spínola, Ph.D.*
> > Instituto Internacional en Conservación y Manejo de Vida Silvestre
> > Universidad Nacional
> > Apartado 1350-3000
> > Heredia
> > COSTA RICA
> > mspinola at una.ac.cr
> > mspinola10 at gmail.com
> > Teléfono: (506) 2277-3598
> > Fax: (506) 2237-7036
> > Personal website: Lobito de río <https://sites.google.com/site/lobitoderio/>
> > Institutional website: ICOMVIS <http://www.icomvis.una.ac.cr/>
> >
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