[R-SIG-Mac] 2.10.0 beta help functions
Prof Brian Ripley
ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk
Sat Oct 17 13:10:46 CEST 2009
help.search() now works in today's snapshot (and has caught up with
2.10.0 beta), but did not in yesterday's.
Also, today's manages to install R.app and R64.app in Applications
(the last two day's did not, even after I uninstalled those apps).
capabilities('tiff') reports no native TIFF support (someone who
patently failed to RFTM called it 'misleading' recently despite the
prominent NOTE on the help page): I thought you intended to add it?
Another thought for consideration: the Windows binary builds now have
memory profiling turned on because although there is a small
performance penalty, it seemed better to allow end users for do
R-level memory debugging without needing to recompile R from the
sources. Might be worth it for Mac users too?
I did some Snow Leopard builds of 2.10.0 beta yesterday (on a machine
that had been upgraded from Leopard, which may be relevant as we found
some oddities, and will re-install it from scratch).
1) configure failed to find the X libraries (even though they were
present), because it seems that /usr/X11/lib is no longer in the
default ld search path. We've seen something similar reported before,
and e.g. LIBS=-L/usr/X11/lib fixed it.
2) I tried building (x86_64) with llvm-gcc and clang. The build with
llvm-gcc failed with an internal compiler error in datetime.c. The
build with clang almost worked, but had a configure error in package
foreign. The claims that clang was a faster compiler were obviously
true, but the claims for better error messages seemed untrue: some
were clearer but some were a lot more confused (not that production
code is a good test of error messages).
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Simon Urbanek wrote:
> On Oct 15, 2009, at 17:00 , Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Simon Urbanek wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 15, 2009, at 16:01 , Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hmm, I think you probably have pre-built html pages.
>>>
>>> Yes, that's likely. They used to be part of the installation but now are
>>> not. The fact that they are missing was useful to point out that I forgot
>>> to switch R.app from html to dynamic help (fixed now), but I was actually
>>> planning on keeping them installed for other software that relies on it
>>> (e.g. JGR). That will give those packages the chance to update until R
>>> 2.11.0.
>>
>> I am sure Simon knows this, but they are still optional (configure option
>> --enable-prebuilt-html). More seriously, they are pretty much untested and
>> I've fixed a couple of non-trivial bugs today (so the HTML files need to be
>> regenerated).
>>
>> Also, I've just updated my checkout of the Mac-GUI project and rebuilt it,
>> and whereas help() now works with dynamic help, help.search() still fails
>> to find pages for packages not under the main library tree (print.hsearch
>> in the Mac-GUI project needs updating).
>>
>
> Ok, updated (it wasn't the most beautiful piece of code before and it's not
> now but it might work).
>
>
>> It's your prerogative to ship prebuilt HTML pages, but they are not going
>> to be shipped on Windows, and not AFAIK on Linux binary builds, so a fair
>> proportion of JGR users will want an update anyway. They just add to the
>> size of the download and the vast majority of users will never access them.
>>
>
> Oh, ok -- I thought we agreed to keep them in binary distributions until
> 2.11, but if Windows doesn't ship them then there is no point, indeed...
>
> Thanks,
> Simon
>
>
>
>> Brian
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Simon
>>>
>>>
>>>> I simply don't see any code that will generate them, either directly or
>>>> by starting the httpd server to do so.
>>>> I just did some quick experiments, and I get blank pages on packages
>>>> without pre-built html, and correct ones on a package I just installed
>>>> with 'R CMD INSTALL --html'.
>>>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Rob Goedman wrote:
>>>>> Peter,
>>>>> On my system (SnowLeopard, below R builds) I did see the warning
>>>>> messages (but the internal help worked fine).
>>>>> This morning I changed the htmlhelp settings as suggested by the
>>>>> warning message ( help_type ='html' ) in main.m and rebuild R.app. The
>>>>> warnings are gone and help still works.
>>>>> Rob
>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> R version 2.10.0 beta (2009-10-15 r50083)
>>>>> Copyright (C) 2009 The R Foundation for Statistical Computing
>>>>> ISBN 3-900051-07-0
>>>>> ...
>>>>> [R.app GUI 1.30 (5495) x86_64-apple-darwin9.8.0]
>>>>> [Workspace restored from /Users/rob/Projects/.RData]
>>>>>> ?ls
>>>>> Warning message:
>>>>> In help("ls", package = NULL) :
>>>>> htmhelp = TRUE is deprecated: use help_type ="html"
>>>>> On Oct 14, 2009, at 6:42 PM, Simon Urbanek wrote:
>>>>>> On Oct 14, 2009, at 7:19 PM, Peter Cowan wrote:
>>>>>>> I just installed the nightly from r.research.att.com called "R 2.10.0
>>>>>>> beta (2009-10-13)" for leopard using the pkg installer.
>>>>>>> When I use ?plot or help(plot) the help window opens, but is blank.
>>>>>>> And, I get this warning:
>>>>>>>> ?plot
>>>>>>> Warning message:
>>>>>>> In help("plot", package = NULL) :
>>>>>>> htmhelp = TRUE is deprecated: use help_type ="html"
>>>>>>> I know the help system has changed significantly in 2.10.0 and I
>>>>>>> apologize if it is poor form to report errors such as this while the
>>>>>>> still in the beta phase,
>>>>>> To the contrary! The whole point of the beta phase is that it gets
>>>>>> tested and all errors reported -- I'll look into this, thanks for
>>>>>> the report.
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Simon
>>>>>>> but my reliance on these help functions has
>>>>>>> prevented me from continuing to use the beta and test other changes.
>>>>>>> BTW thank you for the option, in the new installer, to only install
>>>>>>> the 64bit GUI version.
>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>> Peter
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>>>> Brian D. Ripley, ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk
>>>> Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/
>>>> University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self)
>>>> 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA)
>>>> Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Brian D. Ripley, ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk
>> Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/
>> University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self)
>> 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA)
>> Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595
>>
>
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Brian D. Ripley, ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk
Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/
University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self)
1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA)
Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595
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