[R-SIG-Mac] Mac or Windows...?

[Simon Urbanek]

On Nov 10, 2006, at 12:39 PM, Don MacQueen wrote:

> I know that, but there might be something out there that I haven't  
> heard of.
> For all I know, maybe Simon is smart enough to install Wine without  
> CrossOver.
>

Indeed, it's just the current version of Wine without any add ons (it  
is reasonably easy to compile and I could put up a binary for those  
interested). Originally I was installing it only to be able to run  
HHC when cross-compiling R for Windows and I was surprised that the  
resulting R worked including graphics and all. The Wine page is  
warning that the support is very shaky, but apparently it is  
sufficient to run R (the R installer works as well). You can, of  
course, get even better Windows support if you have a Windows license  
and use native DLLs instead of Wine's implementations, but that's  
another story and we may be getting off-topic here I suppose ;)

Cheers,
Simon


>
> At 9:15 AM -0800 11/10/06, Jan de Leeuw wrote:
>> Well, you couldn't run it without Windows if it
>> used Parallels, so it must be CrossOver.
>>
>> On Nov 10, 2006, at 09:06 , Don MacQueen wrote:
>>
>>> Simon,
>>>
>>> Is that R Windows GUI being run using CrossOver
>>> (http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/)? I don't see any  
>>> sign of
>>> Parallels in that screenshot.
>>>
>>> I'm getting a new MacBook Pro in a week or so, and while it never
>>> occurred to me to run the Windows version of R on it, I think it's a
>>> fun demo of the capability of the new Intel-based Macs.
>>>
>>> -Don
>>>
>>> At 11:42 AM -0500 11/10/06, Simon Urbanek wrote:
>>>> Carlos,
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 10, 2006, at 11:22 AM, Carlos GUERRA wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Dear friends,
>>>>>
>>>>>  I'm thinking about buying a MacBook Pro and I wanted to know if
>>>>>  anyone can tell me what are the major changes, in "R", between a
>>>>>  Mac, and a Windows.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The R itself is pretty much the same - the major differences are in
>>>> the OS (better support for virtual memory, 64-bit support, it's a
>>>> unix etc.) but not R (basically because we develop R primarily on
>>>> unix and use unix-based tools to create the Windows version).  
>>>> The GUI
>>>> for R is different on a Mac - it strives to be more intuitive to  
>>>> Mac
>>>> users, but I don't think there are many features you would miss  
>>>> (you
>>>> may rather find a couple of new ones). I suspect that R will be  
>>>> your
>>>> least problem when switching to Mac OS X ;).
>>>>
>>>> And BTW if you really crave for Windows version of R you can  
>>>> actually
>>>> run it on a MacBook Pro in OS X even without installing Windows and
>>>> it works :)
>>>> [screenshot at:
>>>> http://rosuda.org/misc/iMacWin.png
>>>> the Mac GUI is in the background, the Windows GUI in the  
>>>> foreground]
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Simon
>>>>
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