[R-sig-hpc] R, Nomad, HTCondor, etc... and future

Bennet Fauber bennet @end|ng |rom um|ch@edu
Fri May 22 13:53:58 CEST 2020


Slurm is a good tool, especially if you are not doing complicated
scheduling things with it.  It is really designed to do HPC, so you
might want to take a quick look at your needs and see whether HPC is
really thing thing you want or whether you might be better off in an
HTC environment, like HTCondor.  They are really designed to do
different things in different ways.

Many, if not most, sites seem to end up building HPC clusters, but
many of the users might be better off with HTC, instead.  I'd counsel
you to take a scan through the HTCondor documentation, and at Open
Science Grid, just to get a sense of what the differences are.

For example, with HTCondor, you could configure workstations to be
part of your available resource pool during off hours, or if they are
idle, and it's much harder to do that with something like Slurm.

Anyway, you're buying the shoe, I would just make sure it fits well
before walking a long way with it.

-- bennet

On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 10:45 PM David Bellot <david.bellot using gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I don't see in the above how your 'one-shot job' is different from your
> > colleagues need to send spot requests.
> >
> You're right I didn't explain correclty. On one hand, I have experiments to
> run.
> Think about 'foreach %dopar%' loops and things like that. When it's done, I
> look at the result, and the work is done. My program has run and I don't it
> need anymore.
> On the other hand, they have many small services they want to keep waiting
> 24/7 and run when called, I mean on-demand. They don't need to be heavy on
> CPU, except for the few seconds, maybe when the services are called. In my
> use case, I don't need a service to stay up 24/7, but I use the CPU very
> intensively.
> And describing it like this now, I simply realized that solving these two
> different problems with one single solution seems a bit ... huh... silly :-)
> I found slurm reasonable in the past, and it has only gotten more widely
> > used
> > / available sense.  It will provide you with access to the compute
> > resource,
> > will account for 'who does what' and can schedule / resource (which I never
> > really needed, and sounds like you don't either). Plus it will give you
> > easy
> > view on what is currently up or down, available etc pp.
> >
> > The devil is as always in the details. I'd say experiment and a little and
> > take it from there.
> >
> I'll give Slurm a try then. You're not the first one to say it's a good
> tool.
> Thanks Dirk.
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