[R-sig-Geo] credible interval for empirical Bayesian estimates of rates
Dexter Locke
dexter@|ocke @end|ng |rom gm@||@com
Fri Apr 24 17:18:40 CEST 2020
Thanks Roger and list.
I didn't think a repex was needed because a question was: why does
spdep::EBest(counts, population, family = 'binomial') give the same
results at GeoDa's, while EBest(.. binomial) is "binomial" while GeoDa
calls that "Poisson-Gamma". GeoDa can't give use a repex (GUI) and think
this is a question about terminology. The same results were achieved with
the packages while naming the model differently - why?
Yes ?spdep::EBest directed me to the literature I'm struggling to access.
And Yes, I've been looking at the raw code and understand how the estmm is
generated.
I've been using the epitools::pois.exact() and spdep::EBest. I can compare
the point estimates from pois.exact to those provided by EBest, but I'd
like to graph side by side their credible / confidence intervals.
Its this last part on the credible intervals I'm interested in. How to get
credible intervals around estmm? This is my main question.
ASDAR is a reference I'm using all the time. Thanks for that gem.
DCluster::empbaysmooth also does not provide a credible interval, either.
-Dexter
http://dexterlocke.com/
On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 10:23 AM Roger Bivand <Roger.Bivand using nhh.no> wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Apr 2020, Dexter Locke wrote:
>
> > Dear esteemed list,
> >
> > I'm using spdep::EBest with family = 'binomial' for counts of events
> within
> > polygons that have an 'at risk' population. The resultant "estmm" is
> > 'shrunk' compared to the raw rate (both given by EBest and calculated "by
> > hand" rate. All good there.
> >
> > Using GeoDa version 1.14.0 24 August 2019 produces identical results for
> > its Empirical Bayesian rate. This was confirmed by plotting the EBest
> > output against GeoDa's rate and finding a perfect correlation along the 1
> > to 1 line. All good there.
>
> Please provide a reproducible example, as this may help with answers.
>
> >
> > Two questions:
> > 1. How can credible intervals around these smoothed rate estimates be
> > calculated?
> > 2. The spdep documentation calls this a binomial family, but the
> identical
> > results are obtained from GeoDa calls this "Poisson-Gamma" model here:
> > https://geodacenter.github.io/workbook/3b_rates/lab3b.html#fnref11 , so
> > what is actually being calculated? This question may help me answer the
> > first question..
>
> No, the default family is "poisson", with "binomial" available for
> non-rare conditions following Martuzzi, implemented by Olaf
> Berke, ?spdep::EBest.
>
> The code in spdep is easily accessible, so can be read directly. Please
> also compare with code for the EB Moran test, and with analogous code in
> the DCluster package, empbaysmooth(). Cf. ASDAR 2nd ed., ch. 10, section
> 10.2, pp. 322-328. The epitools::pois.exact() function is used for CIs.
> For code and data see https://asdar-book.org/bundles2ed/dismap_bundle.zip.
>
> >
> > Possibly the answers are addressed in the literature cited which I cannot
> > access right now at home without institutional library access.
> >
>
> Most institutions do have proxy or VPN access, but the code will be as
> useful. In PySAL, the code would also guide you, but even though GeoDa is
> open source, the C++ is fairly dense.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Roger
>
> > Thanks for your consideration,
> > Dexter
> > http://dexterlocke.com/
> >
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