[R-sig-Geo] algorthirm to join polygons based on population properties

[James Rooney]

Dear Virgilio,

Thanks very much for the suggestion. I'll read up on it too! 

James
________________________________________
From: Virgilio Gómez-Rubio [virgilio.gomez at uclm.es]
Sent: 07 January 2014 18:52
To: James Rooney
Cc: r-sig-geo at r-project.org
Subject: Re: [R-sig-Geo] algorthirm to join polygons based on population properties

Dear James,

In addition to what others have suggested, you may want to try a
different modelling approach using zero-inflated models. If you are
working on a rare disease, a zero-inflated model can accommodate the
high number of zeroes better than standard models.

Best wishes,

Virgilio

On mar, 2014-01-07 at 09:57 +0000, James Rooney wrote:
> Hi Roger,
>
> Thanks for your reply. Coding the joins is not a problem I've already done that on a smaller scale in a different project.
>
> No postcodes in my country. I have polygon data from the census and I have geocoded cases for every case of a rare disease. This is all pretty much fixed there is nothing I can do about it. I have performed an analysis based on about 3500 polygons and that works ok. However the population data has bad maths properties. There I'm now working with newer data using 18,000 polygons and the same cases. This population data has better maths properties (i.e. population per polygon is more symmetrically distributed). But there are too many polygons - most of the polygons have no cases. So when I do Bayesian smoothing I just end up with a uniform map of Relative Risk =1 everywhere as all the polygons with cases are all surrounded by polygons with no cases.
>
> I figure to get around this I either fiddle with the spatial weighting (seems unwise), or join polygons in some sensible fashion. My question was really wondering are there algorithms to deduce a list of polygon joins based on polygon properties. For example - I don't want to join urban and rural polygons as I am interested in the association of population density with incidence rate. I'm also interested in the relationship with social deprivation - so I don't want to join an area of high deprivation with and area of low deprivation. Basically I want to know is there a package that will create me a join list based on such rules ? I can of course write some code to do it but I was hoping not to have to spend the time on it!
>
> James
> ________________________________________
> From: Roger Bivand [Roger.Bivand at nhh.no]
> Sent: 07 January 2014 08:28
> To: James Rooney
> Cc: r-sig-geo at r-project.org
> Subject: Re: [R-sig-Geo] algorthirm to join polygons based on population properties
>
> On Tue, 7 Jan 2014, James Rooney wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I have dataset with very many more polygons than cases. I wish to apply
> > Bayesian smoothing to areal disease rates, however I have too many
> > polygons and need a smart way to combine them so that there are less
> > overall polygons.
> > Bascially I need to only combine polygons of similar population density
> > and it would be best if the new polygons have a distribution of total
> > population that was within a limited range/normally distributed.
>
> This is not clear. Do you mean density (count/area) or just count? If you
> have "too many polygons", then probably you haven't thought through your
> sampling design - you need polygons with the correct support for the data
> collection protocol used. Are you looking at postcode polygons and sparse
> geocoded cases, with many empty postcodes? Are postcodes the relevant
> support?
>
> If you think through support first (Gotway & Young 2002), then ad hoc
> aggregation (that's the easy part) may be replaced by appropriate
> aggregation (postcodes by health agency, surgery, etc.). The aggregation
> can be done with rgeos::gUnaryUnion, but you need a vector assigning
> polygons to aggregates first, preferably coded so that the data can be
> maptools::spCbind using well-matched row.names of the aggregated
> SpatialPolygons and data.frame objects to key on observation IDs.
>
> First clarity on support, then aggregate polygons to appropriate support,
> then merge. Otherwise you are ignoring the uncertainty introduced into
> your Bayesian analysis by the aggregation (dfferent aggregations will give
> different results). There are good chapters on this in the Handbook of
> Spatial Statistics by Gelfand and Wakefield/Lyons.
>
> Hope this clarifies,
>
> Roger
>
> >
> > I can of course come up with some way of doing this myself, but I'm not
> > keen to reinvent the wheel and so I am wondering - are there any smart
> > algorithms already out there for doing this kind of thing ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > James
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