[R-sig-Geo] rgdal: libgdal requirements too restrictive
kirill.mueller at ivt.baug.ethz.ch
Sun Apr 21 15:22:36 CEST 2013
On 04/15/2013 10:49 AM, Roger Bivand wrote:
> Please rather use R-sig-geo.
> GDAL 1.6.3 was published 25-Nov-2009; 1.10.1 will be published soon.
> 1.6.3 is no longer supported or fit for service, I'm afraid. GEOS is
> currently at 3.3.8, and 3.2.* are not supoorted or fit for service.
This would mean, in turn, that Debian stable is not "fit for service".
Can't I run GIS software on Debian at all, without installing stuff from
source (which might break Debian's otherwise decent package management)?
> In both cases, numerous bugs have been corrected and additional
> functionality has arrived.
And likewise, three years from now, the current version will look so
> Your only choice is to install GDAL and GEOS from source, there is no
> way that rgdal and rgeos developer(s) - me alone - can back-support
> ancient dependencies.
It's not about really supporting an ancient version. It's about making
the R package installable at all under an operating system with, by
default, rather old software packages. The only change that is required
on the side of rgdal/rgeos is to lower the dependency. The package
installs, the tests show no error. Are you aware of any rgdal/rgeos
functionality which would be broken if run under an older GDAL/GEOS?
I understand that this might raise additional maintenance burden. Can't
you just say "GEOS >= 3.3.8", or something like that, in the
DESCRIPTION, and have the configure script print a warning but allow
installation if 3.2.0 <= GEOS < 3.3.8? Same for rgdal. Anyone really
coming up with a bug report for an older version could then be asked to
test it in a current installation, say, in a virtual machine.
I'd like to ask you to reconsider your position. After all, I have
"fixed" the problem for myself, and I can maintain the tweaked package
sources for myself. It's just to make life easier for those who have to
run GIS on Debian...
> In conclusion - install from source. Maybe also write to R-sig-deb,
> but because this is external to thenm, they won't help. I think that
> this is a Debian GIS FAQ.
I'd love to hear of any option, other than installing from source, to
update my Debian to supported versions of the required libraries --
without having to update libc and the compiler as well. I have looked,
but found nothing.
> On Sun, 14 Apr 2013, Kirill Müller wrote:
>> Dear Roger
>> Just like rgeos , I cannot install current rgdal on the "most
>> recent" Debian stable. Switching to "testing" is not an option for us.
>> Debian squeeze comes with libgdal 1.6.3. I have changed the
>> requirements in the configure script and installed the package on my
>> system, all tests succeeded. I have attached the patch in case you
>> want to reduce the requirements for the other Debian users around.
>>  https://github.com/rundel/rgeos/issues/1
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