[R-sig-Geo] Impact of ArcGIS 8.3 beta's new spatial statistical functions in its Spatial Analyst Extension

[David Hugh-Jones]

Maybe this would be an appropriate time to mention

http://wiki.r-project.org/rwiki/doku.php?id=tips:spatial-data:when_to_use

How would list members answer this question?

David Hugh-Jones
PhD Candidate
Essex University Department of Government
http://davidhughjones.googlepages.com


2008/7/3 John Callahan <john.callahan at udel.edu>:
> I agree.  It's difficult to see any reason that someone who currently
> uses R/GRASS would go to ESRI for spatial statistics.  I come from a
> long history as an ESRI user with an interest in spatial stats.  As
> others have said, ArcGIS may give you the basics quickly and easily, but
> it is limited and expensive.
>
> Actually, ESRI giving spatial statistics any kind of attention is a
> bonus for R users.  The new ArcGIS spatial stats functions may draw in
> some typical GIS users to take a look (just like the ArcGIS GeoStat ext
> did years ago), but once they need to do more intensive work, or modify
> parameters, or deal with larger datasets, or get tired of crashes,
> etc..., they will look elsewhere (again, like ArcGIS GeoStat did), and
> R/GRASS is right there waiting.
>
> - John
>
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> Thomas.Adams at noaa.gov wrote:
>> Paul,
>>
>> Not to mention the huge cost of ESRI products and the fact that they run only on the MS-Windows platform. R also integrates well with GRASS GIS. Personally, I can not see any compelling reasons to go the ESRI route vs R/GRASS…
>>
>> I feel a great debt of gratitude to the selfless developers of R & GRASS!
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Paul Hiemstra <p.hiemstra at geo.uu.nl>
>> Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008 7:54 am
>> Subject: Re: [R-sig-Geo] Impact of ArcGIS 8.3 beta's new spatial statistical functions in its Spatial Analyst Extension
>>
>>
>>> Dear Hisaji,
>>>
>>> I think that the choice of people for R is not only based on the
>>> fact
>>> that a certain method is only available in R. R is much more
>>> flexible in
>>> working with data, allows scripting, allows you to see exactly how
>>> a
>>> method works, allows you to extend or develop methods and if you
>>> write
>>> in script files it also provides a record of what you have done.
>>> Apart
>>> from spatial analysis, R also provides a very wide range of
>>> "normal"
>>> statistical methods that are not available in ArcGIS (linear
>>> regression
>>> and such).
>>>
>>> So I don't think a lot of people will forsake R once a few more
>>> methods
>>> become available in ArcGIS.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> Hisaji ONO wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi.
>>>>
>>>>  What do you think about ArcGIS 8.3's new statistical
>>>> functions(Calculation of spatial or network, GWR,
>>>> Global/Local Moran, Gi etc.) in its Spatial Analyst
>>>> Extension described in
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://webhelp.esri.com/arcgisdesktop/9.3/pdf/Whats_New_In_ArcGIS_93.pdf?>
>>>
>>>>  Current R's spdep's and spgwr's and others' end users
>>>> will loose interests of them and go to use ESRI's apart
>>>> from R's?
>>>>
>>>>  And will decrease activities of developments of
>>>> (geo)spatial data analysis tools in R?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Regards.
>>>>
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