[R-SIG-Finance] Data (Was: TZs)

[Daniel Cegiełka]

http://blog.joda.org/2011/10/time-zone-database-rebooted.html

regards,
daniel



2011/10/7 Jeffrey Ryan <jeffrey.ryan at lemnica.com>:
> Posting simple graphs, even raw data is *likely* to be okay for three reasons:
>
> 1) No one will care. Yahoo, CME, etc would gain little in preventing
> this or tracking it.
> 2) No one could tell were your data comes from anyway - especially if
> it is graph.
> 3) Fair Use
>
> of course, I am not a lawyer...
>
> Jeff
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Andrew Miller <amille47 at illinois.edu> wrote:
>> Thank you for all of your responses, they have helped a lot.
>>
>> One thing that interests me is how much analysis would have to be done to
>> distribute the graphs?  For example, would posting a simple graph of the
>> price history, or the spread between two futures be acceptable without
>> license? Or would only more involved graphs be acceptable?
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> -Andrew
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Dirk Eddelbuettel <edd at debian.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 7 October 2011 at 12:05, Brian G. Peterson wrote:
>>> | On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 11:12 -0500, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
>>> | > Google/Yahoo actually pay the exchanges. That came up when Google
>>> | > started to show real-time data in an Ajax-y form (that you can easily
>>> | > program against) and some news stories at the time reported what deal
>>> | > Google had struck with the NYSE etc.
>>> |
>>> | Of course they paid the exchange.  So Google/Yahoo (obviously) have
>>> | redistribution rights.
>>> |
>>> | The 'terms of use' almost certainly don't allow *you* to redistribute
>>> | that *data* though.  Thus my comment about consulting relevant
>>> | contracts.
>>>
>>> Agreed. My response merely aimed to dash some cold water on your statement
>>>
>>>   take advantage of 'loopholes' in the data pull methodologies provided by
>>>   Yahoo/Google/etc.
>>>
>>> as this is in fact not a loophole. The cgi interface at Yahoo! is fully
>>> aware
>>> of people programming against it, and I have both supported that interface
>>> (via the Finance::YahooQuote module in the godforsaken Perl language) for
>>> users, and deployed it daily myself for about a dozen years. No issue
>>> there:
>>> Yahoo pays, we get to use it, I doubt we can redistribute, consult a lawyer
>>> for details, news at eleven.
>>>
>>> Andrew also asked about the dissemination of derived analysis (graphs etc).
>>> which I think that is fine because that is your work rather that their raw
>>> data.  IANAL.
>>>
>>> Dirk
>>>
>>> PS There was also a 'not' missing in my 'program easily against ajax-y'. It
>>> is not easy, or we all would have 'free' quasi-real-time data now.
>>>
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