[R-SIG-Finance] Data (Was: TZs)

[Daniel Cegiełka]

interesting studies:

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111006/11532316235/astrolabe-claims-it-holds-copyright-timezone-data-sues-maintainers-public-timezone-database.shtml

http://www.thedailyparker.com/PermaLink,guid,c5f28bae-4b9c-41ea-b7b7-8891ad63c938.aspx

best,
daniel




2011/10/7 Andrew Miller <amille47 at illinois.edu>:
> Thank you for all of your responses, they have helped a lot.
>
> One thing that interests me is how much analysis would have to be done to
> distribute the graphs?  For example, would posting a simple graph of the
> price history, or the spread between two futures be acceptable without
> license? Or would only more involved graphs be acceptable?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> -Andrew
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Dirk Eddelbuettel <edd at debian.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 7 October 2011 at 12:05, Brian G. Peterson wrote:
>> | On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 11:12 -0500, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
>> | > Google/Yahoo actually pay the exchanges. That came up when Google
>> | > started to show real-time data in an Ajax-y form (that you can easily
>> | > program against) and some news stories at the time reported what deal
>> | > Google had struck with the NYSE etc.
>> |
>> | Of course they paid the exchange.  So Google/Yahoo (obviously) have
>> | redistribution rights.
>> |
>> | The 'terms of use' almost certainly don't allow *you* to redistribute
>> | that *data* though.  Thus my comment about consulting relevant
>> | contracts.
>>
>> Agreed. My response merely aimed to dash some cold water on your statement
>>
>>   take advantage of 'loopholes' in the data pull methodologies provided by
>>   Yahoo/Google/etc.
>>
>> as this is in fact not a loophole. The cgi interface at Yahoo! is fully
>> aware
>> of people programming against it, and I have both supported that interface
>> (via the Finance::YahooQuote module in the godforsaken Perl language) for
>> users, and deployed it daily myself for about a dozen years. No issue
>> there:
>> Yahoo pays, we get to use it, I doubt we can redistribute, consult a lawyer
>> for details, news at eleven.
>>
>> Andrew also asked about the dissemination of derived analysis (graphs etc).
>> which I think that is fine because that is your work rather that their raw
>> data.  IANAL.
>>
>> Dirk
>>
>> PS There was also a 'not' missing in my 'program easily against ajax-y'. It
>> is not easy, or we all would have 'free' quasi-real-time data now.
>>
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