[R-sig-Fedora] Fedora 42 R source build issues

Roger Bivand Roger@B|v@nd @end|ng |rom nhh@no
Wed Apr 16 17:51:20 CEST 2025 

On Wed, 16 Apr 2025, peter dalgaard wrote:

>
> Hm? That should be unnecessary if you have the corresponding lines in 
> config.site in your build directory when running configure.

Yes, but I prefer to use configure arguments, so having a record in 
config.log in the build directory.

>
> Anyways, I don't think there is a reason to remove version 9. Those 
> configure *Config.sh scripts should ensure that you pick up version 8 
> for the build.

No, tk8-devel and tk-devel do not cohabit in Fedora 42:

# dnf install tk8-devel
Updating and loading repositories:
Repositories loaded.
Failed to resolve the transaction:
Problem: problem with installed package
   - installed package tk-devel-1:9.0.0-4.fc42.x86_64 conflicts with 
tk8-devel provided by tk8-devel-1:8.6.15-5.fc42.i686 from fedora
   - package tk-devel-1:9.0.0-4.fc42.x86_64 from fedora conflicts with 
tk8-devel provided by tk8-devel-1:8.6.15-5.fc42.i686 from fedora
   - conflicting requests
   - installed package tk-devel-1:9.0.0-4.fc42.x86_64 conflicts with 
tk8-devel provided by tk8-devel-1:8.6.15-5.fc42.x86_64 from fedora
   - package tk-devel-1:9.0.0-4.fc42.x86_64 from fedora conflicts with 
tk8-devel provided by tk8-devel-1:8.6.15-5.fc42.x86_64 from fedora
You can try to add to command line:
   --allowerasing to allow removing of installed packages to resolve 
problems
   --skip-broken to skip uninstallable packages
# dnf install --allowerasing tk8-devel
Updating and loading repositories:
Repositories loaded.
Package                  Arch    Version                  Repository 
Size
Removing dependent packages:
  tcl-devel               x86_64  1:9.0.0-7.fc42           fedora 
830.6 KiB
  tk-devel                x86_64  1:9.0.0-4.fc42           fedora 
1.1 MiB
Installing:
  tk8-devel               x86_64  1:8.6.15-5.fc42          fedora 
985.5 KiB
Installing dependencies:
  tcl8-devel              x86_64  1:8.6.15-10.fc42         fedora 
793.4 KiB

Transaction Summary:
  Installing:         2 packages
  Removing:           2 packages

Total size of inbound packages is 710 KiB. Need to download 710 KiB.
After this operation, 158 KiB will be freed (install 2 MiB, remove 2 MiB).
Is this ok [y/N]: y
[1/2] tcl8-devel-1:8.6.15-10.fc42.x86_6 100% | 404.8 KiB/s | 169.6 KiB | 
00m00s
[2/2] tk8-devel-1:8.6.15-5.fc42.x86_64  100% | 872.1 KiB/s | 540.7 KiB | 
00m01s
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[2/2] Total                             100% | 872.6 KiB/s | 710.3 KiB | 
00m01s
Running transaction
[1/6] Verify package files              100% | 153.0   B/s |   2.0   B | 
00m00s
[2/6] Prepare transaction               100% |   8.0   B/s |   4.0   B | 
00m00s
[3/6] Installing tcl8-devel-1:8.6.15-10 100% |  26.1 MiB/s | 800.5 KiB | 
00m00s
[4/6] Installing tk8-devel-1:8.6.15-5.f 100% |  24.1 MiB/s |   1.0 MiB | 
00m00s
[5/6] Removing tk-devel-1:9.0.0-4.fc42. 100% |  47.6 KiB/s | 341.0   B | 
00m00s
[6/6] Removing tcl-devel-1:9.0.0-7.fc42 100% |  47.0   B/s |  47.0   B | 
00m01s
Complete!
...
$ dnf list --installed tk*
Installed packages
tk.x86_64        1:9.0.0-4.fc42  fedora
tk8.x86_64       1:8.6.15-5.fc42 fedora
tk8-devel.x86_64 1:8.6.15-5.fc42 fedora
$ dnf list --installed tcl*
Installed packages
tcl.x86_64        1:9.0.0-7.fc42   fedora
tcl8.x86_64       1:8.6.15-10.fc42 fedora
tcl8-devel.x86_64 1:8.6.15-10.fc42 fedora

Cohabitation with the 9.0 runtimes seems OK, but not the devel packages.

Roger

>
> -pd
>
>> On 16 Apr 2025, at 15.16, Roger Bivand via R-core <R-core using r-project.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2025, peter dalgaard wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The Mac builds want stuff like below. I suspect you may need similar tcl and tk lines pointing to *Config.sh for Tcl/Tk 8.
>>
>> With only tcl8-devel and tk8-devel installed, I also needed:
>>
>> --with-tcl-config=/usr/lib64/tcl8.6/tclConfig.sh --with-tk-config=/usr/lib64/tkConfig.sh
>>
>> to build and check.
>>
>> Roger
>>
>>>
>>> (Tcl/Tk 9 popped up a bit too late in the development cycle for us to go investigating. Do you have any specifics about what has changed and causes problems?)
>>>
>>> -pd
>>>
>>> pd$ more config.site
>>> CPPFLAGS=-I/opt/R/x86_64/include
>>> LDFLAGS=-L/opt/R/x86_64/lib
>>> with_tcl_config=/opt/R/x86_64/lib/tclConfig.sh
>>> with_tk_config=/opt/R/x86_64/lib/tkConfig.sh
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 16 Apr 2025, at 11.11, Iñaki Ucar <iucar using fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 at 09:48, Roger Bivand via R-SIG-Fedora <
>>>> r-sig-fedora using r-project.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Building R 4.5.0 from source on Fedora 42 hits problems because 42 ships
>>>>> with Tcl/Tk 9. tcl8-devel and tk8-devel are available and can be used, but
>>>>> I haven't yet found a viable incantation yet. Neither R released nor devel
>>>>> support Tcl/Tk 9 https://www.tcl-lang.com/software/tcltk/9.0.html.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, you just need to install tcl8-devel and tk8-devel (and tell dnf to
>>>> remove version 9 if it's already there) and compile as usual.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Building against external BLAS is also not self-evident, so may need
>>>>> guidance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Building against FlexiBLAS is recommended. So you need to install
>>>> flexiblas-devel, then tell R via --with-blas=flexiblas --with-lapack.
>>>>
>>>> See the configure part of our spec for a complete reference of what we do:
>>>>
>>>> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/R/blob/rawhide/f/R.spec#_326
>>>>
>>>> Iñaki
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions welcome!
>>>>>
>>>>> Roger
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Roger Bivand
>>>>> Emeritus Professor
>>>>> Department of Economics
>>>>> Norwegian School of Economics, Bergen, Norway
>>>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Roger Bivand
>> Emeritus Professor
>> Department of Economics, Norwegian School of Economics,
>> Postboks 3490 Ytre Sandviken, 5045 Bergen, Norway.
>> e-mail: Roger.Bivand using nhh.no
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>
>
> --
> Peter Dalgaard, Professor,
> Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business SchoolSolbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark
> Phone: (+45)38153501
> Office: A 4.23
> Email: pd.mes using cbs.dk  Priv: PDalgd using gmail.com
>
>

-- 
Roger Bivand
Emeritus Professor
Department of Economics, Norwegian School of Economics,
Postboks 3490 Ytre Sandviken, 5045 Bergen, Norway.
e-mail: Roger.Bivand using nhh.no

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