[R-sig-Debian] Re : Re : R 2.13.1 on Debian Systems?

[denis brion]

What astonishes me is that :

a) there are , today, _no_ official claims that Mint LMDE is debian (the way 
packages are handled, to day, is second hand information... there are no clear 
details in a FAQ, which would be natural); unless I missed an IT link...(the 
link I found was from unofficial -fora, ...- "sources")


b) there is no information (except for fan bois enthusiasms and credo in fora ) 
that LMDE *will * remain debian (Two years ago, Mint wanted to rebase on ... 
Fedora... because of troubles with UBUntu, or of fashion, or???)
 If they often change their minds, "real work" maintaining might become a 
surrealistic nightmare for users (there are hundreds of fancy GNUlinux 
distributions/sects where R can be installed -a working gcc and some headers is 
"enough"-, with the same results than on a stable, well maintained GNU linux 
distributions: the difference relies on the long term).



----- Message d'origine ----
De : BooBoo <booboo at gforcecable.com>
À : denis brion <dbrion1 at yahoo.fr>
Cc : R-SIG-Debian at r-project.org
Envoyé le : Lun 18 juillet 2011, 19h 55min 38s
Objet : Re: Re : [R-sig-Debian] R 2.13.1 on Debian Systems?


You can point mint update at the debian testing repository if you want a 
true rolling update (and know how to fix things when they break) or at 
the mint repositories if you want the Mint folks to gather up and test 
out things for a month before they pass the updates on to you. The Mint 
debian experience is about the same as Ubuntu 10.10 - you can do real 
work if you want or just fool around. I think it is a great platform for 
using R and RStudio/StatET.

Tom




On 7/18/2011 1:09 PM, denis brion wrote:
> According to
> http://landorsplace.wordpress.com/2011/07/11/weekend-wrap-up/,
> Mint LMDE can be seen as a real debian , but with a ca-one month lag (__if__
> everything is OK, and __if__ they keep their choices). They add more user
> friendly (at least they claim) installers and interfaces, which are not likely
> to interfere with R or its dependencies, and non-free drivers (which ere not
> likely...) .... Their intended audience is likely to be beginners (but, as R 
is
> more difficult than bash scripting and OS installing, is Mint -rather meant 
for
> video/music playing, without too many efforts- necessary?).
>
>
>
>
> ----- Message d'origine ----
> De : BooBoo<booboo at gforcecable.com>
> À : Dirk Eddelbuettel<edd at debian.org>
> Cc : r-sig-debian at r-project.org
> Envoyé le : Mer 13 juillet 2011, 18h 47min 54s
> Objet : Re: [R-sig-Debian] R 2.13.1 on Debian Systems?
>
> On 7/13/2011 12:35 PM, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
>> On 13 July 2011 at 18:17, Carlos J. Gil Bellosta  wrote:
>> | Hello,
>> |
>> | You can check at
>> | http://cran.r-project.org/bin/linux/debian/squeeze-cran/ that it has
>> | not.
>>
>> You can check the Debian 'package page' here:
>>
>>      http://packages.qa.debian.org/r/r-base.html
>>
>> R 2.13.1 was uploaded to Debian unstable the morning of its release.
>>
>> What is available on CRAN is a supplementary service which (for Debian) is
>> provided by Johannes as explained in the README there.0
>>
>> | 2011/7/13 BooBoo<booboo at gforcecable.com>:
>> |>   I am running 32-bit and a 64-bit Linux Mint Debian systems and the 
latest
> R
>> |>   has not yet appeared whereas it has on a Xubuntu box. Is the Debian 
>update
>> |>   out yet?
>>
>> So why are you asking about Debian when you are running Mint.  Are you mixing
>> binaries from different distribution?
>>
>> Dirk
>>
> I don't know much, but I know not to mix binaries from different
> distributions. I am using Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE), which is a
> very nice distribution that is real Debian AFAIK. I have synaptic
> pointed at the UC Berkeley mirror, which does not appear to have 2.13.1 yet.
>
> Tom
>
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