[R-sig-Debian] X11 --> Wayland under Ubuntu WAS: Re: [R] RGL crashes

Rainer M Krug r.m.krug at gmail.com
Thu Dec 9 13:02:28 CET 2010


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On 12/09/2010 12:53 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote:
> On 09/12/2010 5:52 AM, Matthew Dowle wrote:
>> Weyland is the project to remove X11 from Linux.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_(display_server)
>>
>> Ubuntu chiefs have said they support Weyland and aim to include it
>> in the next release (April 2011 == version 11.04 == Natty Narwhal).
>>
>> Fedora developers apparenly said that they are likely to adopt
>> Weyland too.
>>
>> I don't know if packages in R such as rgl would need changing to
>> work with Weyland, or perhaps R itself, if at all. However it seems
>> that Linux is moving away from X11.
> 
> If X11 calls aren't supported in Wayland, then rgl won't work there. The
> Wayland people will need to write a replacement for the glx interface to
> OpenGL, and an rgl user will need to write the code to use this in rgl
> (i.e. equivalents of the x11gui.* and x11lib.* files in the rgl
> sources).  rgl is designed to work on multiple systems (currently
> Windows, Cocoa in OSX, and X11), but it's not trivial to implement a new
> one.

While we are at X11 and Wayland - are there any other aspects of R which
would need to be rewritten or adapted? I guess, a new graphic device
might be necessary?

It might be an important exercise to find this out as it will be
relevant for all the Ubuntu users in the medium future (probably earlier?)

I send this to the r-sig-debian as well, as it might be more relevant where.

Rainer

> 
> Duncan Murdoch
> 
>>
>> Mentioned it here because the issue in this thread appears to be
>> X11 specific. X11's days seem to be numbered if I understand
>> correctly.
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>>
>> "Duncan Murdoch"<murdoch.duncan at gmail.com>  wrote in message
>> news:4CFFCA13.7070503 at gmail.com...
>>> Matthew Dowle wrote:
>>>> Might Wayland fix it in Narwhal ?
>>>
>>> I hope those names mean something to Rainer, because they mean
>>> nothing to
>>> me.
>>>
>>> Duncan Murdoch
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Duncan Murdoch"<murdoch.duncan at gmail.com>  wrote in message
>>>> news:4CFF7177.7030402 at gmail.com...
>>>>> On 08/12/2010 6:07 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:
> On 12/08/2010 12:05 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote:
>>>>>>>> Rainer M Krug wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> rgl crashes my R session, when resizing the rgl graphic window.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am using Ubuntu Maversick, with dual monitor setup. If I
>>>>>>>> disconnect
>>>>>>>> one monitor, I can resize it "a little bit", but it still craches
>>>>>>>> if I
>>>>>>>> enlarge it to much.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I assume that the problem has to do with allocated graphic memory in
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> kernel, but why is R crashing completely, and not evn giving the
>>>>>>>> usual
>>>>>>>> crash options?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rainer
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> sessionInfo()
>>>>>>>> R version 2.12.0 (2010-10-15)
>>>>>>>> Platform: i686-pc-linux-gnu (32-bit)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> locale:
>>>>>>>>    [1] LC_CTYPE=en_US.utf8       LC_NUMERIC=C
>>>>>>>>    [3] LC_TIME=en_US.utf8        LC_COLLATE=en_US.utf8
>>>>>>>>    [5] LC_MONETARY=C             LC_MESSAGES=en_US.utf8
>>>>>>>>    [7] LC_PAPER=en_US.utf8       LC_NAME=C
>>>>>>>>    [9] LC_ADDRESS=C              LC_TELEPHONE=C
>>>>>>>> [11] LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.utf8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=C
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> attached base packages:
>>>>>>>> [1] stats     graphics  grDevices utils     datasets  methods   base
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> other attached packages:
>>>>>>>> [1] rgl_0.92.794
>>>>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>                  _
>>>>>>>> platform       i686-pc-linux-gnu
>>>>>>>> arch           i686
>>>>>>>> os             linux-gnu
>>>>>>>> system         i686, linux-gnu
>>>>>>>> status
>>>>>>>> major          2
>>>>>>>> minor          12.0
>>>>>>>> year           2010
>>>>>>>> month          10
>>>>>>>> day            15
>>>>>>>> svn rev        53317
>>>>>>>> language       R
>>>>>>>> version.string R version 2.12.0 (2010-10-15)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After executing
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> library(rgl)
>>>>>>>> example(rgl)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and resizing the graph window, R crashes witrh the following
>>>>>>>> message:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> drmRadeonCmdBuffer: -22. Kernel failed to parse or rejected command
>>>>>>>> stream. See dmesg for more info.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> from dmesg:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [ 7349.471959] [drm:r100_cs_track_check] *ERROR* [drm] Buffer too
>>>>>>>> small
>>>>>>>> for color buffer 0 (need 413696 have 262144) !
>>>>>>>> [ 7349.471964] [drm:r100_cs_track_check] *ERROR* [drm] color
>>>>>>>> buffer 0
>>>>>>>> (256 4 0 404)
>>>>>>>> [ 7349.471967] [drm:radeon_cs_ioctl] *ERROR* Invalid command
>>>>>>>> stream !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Those messages look like they're coming from your graphics driver,
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> from R.  So rgl may be doing something it shouldn't do, but you'll
>>>>>>>>> probably have to diagnose what that is.  It's unlikely to be
>>>>>>>>> reproducible on another system.
> That's what I fear as well - could you give me any tips on how to
> proceed to identify the problem?
>>>>>> It might help to know which line of code in rgl actually triggered the
>>>>>> error, but debugging X11 code is tricky.  The function that likely
>>>>>> triggered the problem is X11WindowImpl::setWindowRect in
>>>>>> rgl/src/x11gui.cpp; it makes calls to X11 functions that do the actual
>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Duncan Murdoch
>>>>>>
> Rainer
> 
>>>>>>>>> Duncan Murdoch
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> (Conservation
>>>>>>>> Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)
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>>>>>>>>
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Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation
Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)

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