[R-pkg-devel] Issue with flang-new (segfault from C stack overflow)

Tomas Kalibera tom@@@k@||ber@ @end|ng |rom gm@||@com
Mon Dec 18 18:19:27 CET 2023


On 12/18/23 16:41, Jisca Huisman wrote:
> Hello Ivan & Tomas,
>
> Thank you for your time and helpful suggestions!
>
> The finer details of memory use and heap vs stack are still outside my 
> comfort zone, but some trial and error shows that using an allocatable 
> does indeed solve the issue. When using the largest value I expect 
> users to use before running into Out Of Memory issues at other points 
> in the code, I get
>
> ==3154== Warning: set address range perms: large range [0xd0ff3070, 
> 0x14834c470) (undefined)
> ==3154== Warning: set address range perms: large range [0x14834d040, 
> 0x1bf6a6440) (undefined)
> ==3154== Warning: set address range perms: large range [0x14834d028, 
> 0x1bf6a6458) (noaccess)
>
> but no valgrind errors. So I'm happy with this fairly straightforward 
> solution, thanks Ivan!
>
>
>>
>> You might perhaps submit a bug report for flang-new, asking whether 
>> their heuristics for these cases are as intended, showing that they 
>> differ from gfortran.
> Will do; I suspect gfortran may have some trick to make it work somehow.
Thanks.
>>
>> You might get more help on mailing lists discussing Fortran language, 
>> specifically - this is not an R issue.
>
> Since the original error was "segfault from C stack overflow" I was 
> not convinced that this was a Fortran issue, but thanks for the 
> suggestion - I will try to find those for future issues.

The segfault handler belongs to R, but it is triggered by the overflow 
in the fortran function. If you ran the example outside R, it would use 
the default segfault handler, which would simply terminate the program 
(possibly creating a core dump, depending on the OS/setup).

Best
Tomas

>
>>
>> But in practice, yes, using "allocatable" should work much better for 
>> large arrays.
>
> Good to know!
>
>>
>>
>> Best
>> Tomas 
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jisca
>
>
>
> On 18-12-2023 16:06, Tomas Kalibera wrote:
>>
>> On 12/18/23 15:09, Ivan Krylov wrote:
>>> В Mon, 18 Dec 2023 11:06:16 +0100
>>> Jisca Huisman <jisca.huisman using gmail.com> пишет:
>>>
>>>> I isolated the problem in a minimal working example available here:
>>>> https://github.com/JiscaH/flang_segfault_min_example . All that does
>>>> is pass a vector of length N*N back and forth between R and Fortran.
>>>> It works fine for very long vectors (tested up to length 5e8), but
>>>> throws a segfault when I reshape a large array in Fortran to a vector
>>>> to pass to R, both when using RESHAPE() and when using loops.
>>> You've done an impressive amount of investigative work. Thank you for
>>> reducing your problem to such a small example! My eyes are drawn to
>>> these two lines:
>>>
>>>>>   integer, intent(IN) :: N
>>>>>   integer :: M(N,N)
>>> If this was C, such a declaration would mean a variable-length array
>>> that would have to be placed on the (limited-size) stack and eventually
>>> overflow it. gfortran places the array on the heap, so the program
>>> works:
>>>
>>>    integer, intent(IN) :: N
>>>    integer, intent(INOUT) :: V(N*N)
>>>    integer :: M(N,N)
>>>      1205:       48 63 db                movslq %ebx,%rbx
>>>      1208:       b8 00 00 00 00          mov    $0x0,%eax
>>>      120d:       48 85 db                test   %rbx,%rbx
>>>      1210:       49 89 c4                mov    %rax,%r12
>>>      1213:       4c 0f 49 e3             cmovns %rbx,%r12
>>>      1217:       48 89 df                mov    %rbx,%rdi
>>>      121a:       49 0f af fc             imul   %r12,%rdi
>>>      121e:       48 85 ff                test   %rdi,%rdi
>>>      1221:       48 0f 48 f8             cmovs  %rax,%rdi
>>>      1225:       48 c1 e7 02             shl    $0x2,%rdi
>>>      1229:       b8 01 00 00 00          mov    $0x1,%eax
>>>      122e:       48 0f 44 f8             cmove  %rax,%rdi
>>>      1232:       e8 19 fe ff ff          callq  1050 <malloc using plt>
>>>      1237:       48 89 c5                mov    %rax,%rbp
>>>      123a:       4c 89 e7                mov    %r12,%rdi
>>>      123d:       48 f7 d7                not    %rdi
>>>
>>> (Looking at the address of M in GDB and comparing it with the output
>>> of info proc mappings, I can confirm that it lives on the heap.)
>>>
>>> flang-new makes M into a C-style VLA:
>>>
>>>    integer, intent(IN) :: N
>>>    integer, intent(INOUT) :: V(N*N)
>>>    integer :: M(N,N)
>>>      74ec:       48 63 17                movslq (%rdi),%rdx
>>>      74ef:       89 d1                   mov    %edx,%ecx
>>>      74f1:       31 c0                   xor    %eax,%eax
>>>      74f3:       48 85 d2                test   %rdx,%rdx
>>>      74f6:       48 0f 49 c2             cmovns %rdx,%rax
>>>      74fa:       48 89 85 b0 fe ff ff    mov %rax,-0x150(%rbp)
>>>      7501:       48 89 c2                mov    %rax,%rdx
>>>      7504:       48 0f af d2             imul   %rdx,%rdx
>>>      7508:       48 8d 34 95 0f 00 00    lea 0xf(,%rdx,4),%rsi
>>>      750f:       00
>>>      7510:       48 83 e6 f0             and $0xfffffffffffffff0,%rsi
>>>      7514:       48 89 e2                mov    %rsp,%rdx
>>>      7517:       48 29 f2                sub    %rsi,%rdx
>>>      751a:       48 89 95 b8 fe ff ff    mov %rdx,-0x148(%rbp)
>>>      7521:       48 89 d4                mov    %rdx,%rsp
>>>
>>> (Looking at the value of the stack pointer in GDB after M(N,N) is
>>> declared, I can see it way below the end of the stack and the loaded
>>> shared libraries according to info proc mappings. GDB doesn't let me
>>> see the address of M. The program crashes in `M = 42`, trying to
>>> overwrite the code from the C standard library.)
>>>
>>> Are Fortran processors allowed to place such "automatic data objects"
>>> like integer :: M(N,N) on the stack?
>>
>> From my reading, yes, they are allowed to do that. Local arrays can 
>> be put on the stack or the heap. Even the "allocatable" could be 
>> placed on the stack. But I am not a fortran expert.
>>
>> Allocating on the stack has the problem that it is not possible to 
>> have a portable test whether there is enough space, hence the crash 
>> when it isn't. This is not specific to fortran. Some systems try to 
>> still detect such cases (like R), but it is not portable. There are 
>> OS-specific ways to increase the stack size limit, but that cannot be 
>> relied on with R, it would be rather too much asking R users to do that.
>>
>> You might perhaps submit a bug report for flang-new, asking whether 
>> their heuristics for these cases are as intended, showing that they 
>> differ from gfortran.
>>
>> You might get more help on mailing lists discussing Fortran language, 
>> specifically - this is not an R issue.
>>
>> But in practice, yes, using "allocatable" should work much better for 
>> large arrays.
>>
>> Best
>> Tomas
>>
>>
>>> The Fortran standard doesn't seem
>>> to give an answer to this question, but if you make your M allocatable,
>>> you won't have to worry about stack usage:
>>>
>>> subroutine dostuff(N,V)
>>>    implicit none
>>>
>>>    integer, intent(IN) :: N
>>>    integer, intent(INOUT) :: V(N*N)
>>>    integer, allocatable :: M(:,:) ! <-- here
>>>
>>>    allocate(M(N,N))               ! <-- and here
>>>    M = 42
>>>    V = RESHAPE(M, (/N*N/))
>>> end subroutine dostuff
>>>
>>> No leaks or crashes observed with these two changes and either
>>> compiler. The Fortran standard requires that local allocatable unsaved
>>> arrays (except for the function result) are deallocated at the end of
>>> procedures.
>>>



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