[R-pkg-devel] Matrix and Mac OS

[Uwe Ligges]

On 01.11.2023 03:51, Mikael Jagan wrote:
> Thanks.  It seems that we were mistaken in our feeling (IIRC) that it would
> be "OK" to implicitly require '--no-manual' on versions of R from 3.5.0 to
> 4.2.1, not changing our Depends.
> 
> We will fix this in Matrix 1.6-2, probably by conditionalizing or otherwise
> replacing the amsmath commands and probably _not_ by changing to depend on
> R >= 4.2.2.  Martin may have more to say in "the morning".

Note that dependin on R >= 4.2.2 does not work. We need dependencies of 
the form R >= x.y.0. This is also part of the checks.

Reason is that we have only one binary repository for one R-x.y.? 
series. On WIndows, where we check with R-4.2.3, a binary would be 
created and hence R-4.2.[0-1] would not see any valid Matrix binaries.

So please either make this work on R >= 4.2.0 or require R >= 4.3.0. If 
the latter, ideally with an interim version that works for R >= 4.2.0, 
so that we valid binaries with correct dependency declarations again.

Best,
Uwe

> In the mean time (i.e., while we are stuck with Matrix 1.6-1.1), it may 
> help
> to update to R 4.2.3 on r-oldrel-macos-* and/or to have EdSurvey revert its
> strict version requirement, unless there are clear examples justifying one.
> 
> Mikael
> 
> 
> On 2023-10-31 8:17 pm, Simon Urbanek wrote:
>> Mikael,
>>
>> in that case I think your requirements are wrong - Matrix says R >= 
>> 3.5.0 which is apparently incorrect - from what you say it should be 
>> 4.2.2?. I can certainly update to 4.2.3 if necessary.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Simon
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 1/11/2023, at 9:19 AM, Mikael Jagan <jaganmn2 using gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks.  We did see those ERRORs, stemming from use (since Matrix 1.6-0)
>>> of amsmath commands in Rd files.  These have been supported since R 
>>> 4.2.2,
>>> but r-oldrel-macos-* (unlike r-oldrel-windows-*) continues to run R 
>>> 4.2.0.
>>> My expectation was that those machines would begin running R >= 4.2.2 
>>> well
>>> before the R 4.4.0 release, but apparently that was wrong.
>>>
>>> I am hesitant to complicate our Rd files with conditions on R versions
>>> only to support PDF output for R < 4.2.2, but maybe we can consider it
>>> for the Matrix 1.6-2 release if it is really a barrier for others ...
>>>
>>> Mikael
>>>
>>> On 2023-10-31 3:33 pm, Simon Urbanek wrote:
>>>> Mikael,
>>>> current Matrix fails checks on R-oldrel so that's why only the last 
>>>> working version is installed:
>>>> https://cran.r-project.org/web/checks/check_results_Matrix.html
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Simon
>>>>> On 1/11/2023, at 4:05 AM, Mikael Jagan <jaganmn2 using gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am guessing that they mean EdSurvey:
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://cran.r-project.org/web/checks/check_results_EdSurvey.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Probably Matrix 1.6-1.1 is not installed on r-oldrel-macos-arm64,
>>>>> even though it can be, because it was not released until R 4.3-z.
>>>>>
>>>>> AFAIK, methods for 'qr' have not been touched since Matrix 1.6-0, and
>>>>> even those changes should have been backwards compatible, modulo 
>>>>> handling
>>>>> of dimnames (class sparseQR gained a Dimnames slot in 1.6-0).
>>>>>
>>>>> So I don't see a clear reason for requiring 1.6-1.1.  Requiring 1.6-0
>>>>> might make sense, if somehow EdSurvey depends on how class sparseQR
>>>>> preserves dimnames.  But IIRC our rev. dep. checks at that time did 
>>>>> not
>>>>> reveal problems with EdSurvey.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mikael
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2023-10-31 7:00 am, r-package-devel-request using r-project.org wrote:
>>>>>> Paul,
>>>>>> can you give us a bit more detail? Which package, which build and 
>>>>>> where you got the errors? Older builds may not have the latest 
>>>>>> Matrix.
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Simon
>>>>>>> On 31/10/2023, at 11:26 AM, Bailey, Paul via 
>>>>>>> R-package-devel<r-package-devel using r-project.org>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm the maintainer for a few packages, one of which is currently 
>>>>>>> failing CRAN checks on Mac OS because Matrix is not available in 
>>>>>>> my required version (the latest). I had to fix a few things due 
>>>>>>> to changes in the latest Matrix package because of how qr works 
>>>>>>> and I thought, given the apparent API change, I should then 
>>>>>>> require the latest version. My error is, "Package required and 
>>>>>>> available but unsuitable version: 'Matrix'"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I look at the NEWS in Matrix there is no mention of Mac OS 
>>>>>>> issues, what the latest stable version of Matrix is, nor when a 
>>>>>>> fix is expected. What version do MacOS version test Matrix with 
>>>>>>> by default? Where is this documented? I assumes it always tested 
>>>>>>> with the latest version on CRAN, so I'm a bit surprised. Or will 
>>>>>>> this be resolved soon and I shouldn't bother CRAN maintainers 
>>>>>>> with a new version of my package?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>
>>
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