Hello peter,

Thanks for the comment.  wilcox.exact is simpler as you pointed out but the
fact that it is no longer being developed is somewhat concerning.

Regards
Janh


On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Peter Ehlers <ehlers@ucalgary.ca> wrote:

> On 2013-05-30 20:20, Janh Anni wrote:
>
>> Hello Greg,
>>
>> Thank you so much for your kind assistance.  It looks like there's no way
>> around using the formula format.  I longed in vain for a simpler script
>> more like the wilcox.test format.  Thanks again.
>>
>> Janh
>>
>
> I don't see why the formula syntax would be a problem, but to avoid it
> you could use exactRankTests::wilcox.exact() which, I believe, was
> written by the same author. It uses the same syntax as wilcox.test().
> Note, though, that the package is no longer
> being developed.
>
> Peter Ehlers
>
>
>
>>
>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Greg Snow <538280@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Ok, it looks like the function mainly works through the formula syntax.
>>>   It still would have been nice to have a reproducible example of what
>>> your
>>> data may look like, but I can show an example with simulated x and y:
>>>
>>>  x <- rpois(10, 3)
>>>> y <- rpois(11, 3.1)
>>>> mydf <- data.frame( vals = c(x,y),
>>>>
>>> +   group=rep( c('x','y'), c( length(x), length(y) ) ) )
>>>
>>>> wilcox_test( vals ~ group, data=mydf )
>>>>
>>>
>>>          Asymptotic Wilcoxon-Mann-Whitney Test
>>>
>>> data:  vals by group (x, y)
>>> Z = -1.3718, p-value = 0.1701
>>> alternative hypothesis: true mu is not equal to 0
>>>
>>> Does that help?  (maybe I am the heedlessness theorist after all)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Janh Anni <annijanh@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  I thought (hoped) wilcox_test(x,y) would do it but it doesn't and the
>>>> package maintainer says the data have to be rearranged but does not
>>>> specify
>>>> how.  Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Janh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Greg Snow <538280@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  What have you tried so far?  Have you read the help page? have you run
>>>>> the examples on that page?
>>>>>
>>>>> I would expect that it is something as simple as
>>>>>
>>>>> library(coin)
>>>>> wilcox_test(x,y)
>>>>>
>>>>> or
>>>>>
>>>>> wilcox_test( y ~ group )
>>>>>
>>>>> But you should trust the help page more than the expectations of
>>>>> someone
>>>>> who has not read it recently (see fortune(14)).
>>>>>
>>>>> If that does not answer your question then give us more detail on what
>>>>> you tried, what you expected the results to be, what the results
>>>>> actually
>>>>> were, and how they differed.  Without that information we have to
>>>>> resort to
>>>>> mind reading and the current implementation of the esp package is still
>>>>> very pre-alpha, it suggests that the answer to your question is:
>>>>>
>>>>>  esp()
>>>>>>
>>>>> [1] "selflessly vigilantly pigeon theorist heedlessness"
>>>>>
>>>>> Which is either much to profound for the likes of me to understand or
>>>>> is
>>>>> complete gibberish (which is only slightly less helpful than an overly
>>>>> general question without a reproducible example).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Janh Anni <annijanh@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Dear All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have two simple data samples (no groups or factors, etc.) and would
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> like to compute the two-sample Wilcoxon Rank Sum test using the
>>>>>> wilcox_test
>>>>>> function contained in the coin package, which is reportedly better
>>>>>> than
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> regular wilcox.test function because it performs some adjustment for
>>>>>> ties.
>>>>>> Would anyone know how to craft a script to perform this task?  Much
>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Janh
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Gregory (Greg) L. Snow Ph.D.
>>>>> 538280@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>>>
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