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On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Leanna Jones <leanna_jones@hotmail.com>wrote:

> Hello!  I am trying to run a GLMM using LME4, and keep getting the warning
> message: "In mer_finalize(ans) : false convergence (8)"  I am quite new to
> R, and in looking into this thus far, it appears that there are a variety
> of reasons why this might occur, such as needing to standardize some
> parameters or if all subjects in one combination of parameters all have the
> same outcome.  I also understand that the warning does not necessarily mean
> that the model results are invalid, but they might be...however, I am
> unsure how to interpret this in my own situation.
> I started with a somewhat more complex model, but kept simplifying it to
> see if I could get the warning to go away (so it might indicate which
> predictor variable was the problem...). However, even when using a single
> fixed effect variable (just sex, for instance), I continue to have the
> problem, which makes me think the issue may be with my random effect.  Here
> is the model I would like to run:
>
> mm1=lmer(BinomialOutcome~AgeGroup+Sex+Study.Site+(1|BearID.reformatted),family=binomial)
> The study is based on bear captures over a period of time, such that some
> bears are captured only once, while others many times (in a very unbalanced
> fashion); I would like to use all the data, but want to account for
> resampling of specific individuals.  However, this means that there are
> nearly 600 different bear IDs, and I am wondering if this is the reason why
> the model will not converge?  If so, what is the best way to address this?
>  Or other ideas as to what might be going on?
> When I run the line above with verbose on, I get the following:  >
> mm1=lmer(BinomialOutcome~AgeGroup+Sex+Study.Site+(1|BearID.reformatted),family=binomial)
>    #random effect: Ind with intercept of 1, correcting for the
> intercept/variation btw individuals  0:     805.13676:  1.12717 -0.556586
>  1.85210  2.38794  2.36938  2.35604 -2.22337  1.30764  1.34134 -2.47444
> -1.63320  1:     748.91032:  2.05259 -0.834683  1.81369  2.42567  2.40069
>  2.38217 -2.31535  1.22744  1.26468 -2.64606 -1.74027  2:     723.97734:
>  2.74220 -1.05673  2.00374  2.71876  2.57376  2.50128 -2.73578  1.23505
>  1.35678 -2.98235 -1.63736  3:     715.51275:  2.92015 -1.58830  2.15652
>  3.03669  2.81316  2.67649 -3.28992  1.30372  1.36311 -3.32467 -1.84785  4:
>     696.36424:  3.21244 -1.51265  2.41407  3.41250  3.22182  2.99137
> -3.54075  1.68499  1.83767 -3.33953 -1.80989  5:     672.69327:  4.20847
> -2.35950  3.26463  4.32168  4.39792  4.00460 -3.72829  1.41841  2.56574
> -4.27911 -1.86318  6:     664.48332:  4.37811 -2.58726  3.01153  4.60841
>  4.65061  4.30175 -4.11225  2.30181  2.55998 -4.38222 -2.02300  7:
> 625.68427:  7.31164 -4.89788  5.63003  7.04671  7.95742  8.12903 -4.86511
>  3.64151  3.86169 -6.33864 -2.89485  8:     619.38278:  9.39340 -7.21835
>  5.63590  11.1393  10.6331  11.5975 -4.65786  3.81066  6.58406 -9.13652
> -2.96142  9:     613.14410:  9.53164 -7.17298  6.01739  10.8896  10.7209
>  11.6709 -4.81531  4.06987  6.53556 -9.01013 -3.05630 10:     600.31130:
>  10.0557 -7.29631  7.68818  10.1017  11.1766  12.1945 -5.40073  5.30987
>  6.73629 -8.62503 -3.67308 11:     589.17852:  11.9972 -9.32646  9.77915
>  13.1274  13.2796  14.9828 -6.09763  6.80325  9.19492 -9.58777 -5.25910 12:
>     586.76154:  12.3176 -9.61034  9.97050  13.3227  13.7241  15.3584
> -6.13498  7.19387  9.59990 -9.83274 -5.36590 13:     586.09051:  12.3760
> -9.59270  9.95463  13.2692  13.7816  15.3696 -6.14017  7.35785  9.64404
> -9.83450 -5.34840 14:     585.97813:  12.3886 -9.59431  9.95680  13.2579
>  13.7946  15.3724 -6.14235  7.38957  9.65379 -9.83525 -5.34966 15:
> 585.77123:  12.4143 -9.59929  9.96353  13.2359  13.8209  15.3784 -6.14715
>  7.45208  9.67407 -9.83681 -5.35395 16:     585.69436:  12.4251 -9.60281
>  9.96832  13.2277  13.8318  15.3810 -6.14945  7.47605  9.68290 -9.83747
> -5.35717 17:     585.54933:  12.4469 -9.61094  9.97946  13.2122  13.8536
>  15.3863 -6.15434  7.52306  9.70121 -9.83879 -5.36474 18:     585.49415:
>  12.4558 -9.61507  9.98519  13.2068  13.8624  15.3886 -6.15653  7.54097
>  9.70908 -9.83931 -5.36868 19:     585.38801:  12.4740 -9.62396  9.99753
>  13.1967  13.8800  15.3933 -6.16106  7.57607  9.72529 -9.84034 -5.37720 20:
>     585.38387:  12.4748 -9.62436  9.99809  13.1963  13.8807  15.3935
> -6.16126  7.57741  9.72597 -9.84038 -5.37759 21:     585.35100:  12.4807
> -9.62760  10.0026  13.1936  13.8863  15.3951 -6.16281  7.58812  9.73146
> -9.84070 -5.38074 22:     585.35042:  12.4807 -9.62760  10.0026  13.1936
>  13.8863  15.3951 -6.16281  7.58812  9.73146 -9.87324 -5.38074 23:
> 585.22373:  12.5045 -9.64059  10.0207  13.1830  13.9088  15.4016 -6.16903
>  7.63092  9.75346 -9.87324 -5.39333 24:     585.21879:  12.5055 -9.64113
>  10.0216  13.1827  13.9097  15.4018 -6.16930  7.63249  9.75441 -9.87323
> -5.39392 25:     585.20893:  12.5075 -9.64224  10.0233  13.1822  13.9114
>  15.4024 -6.16984  7.63564  9.75632 -9.87322 -5.39512 26:     585.20499:
>  12.5083 -9.64268  10.0240  13.1820  13.9121  15.4026 -6.17006  7.63689
>  9.75709 -9.87321 -5.39560 27:     585.20420:  12.5085 -9.64277  10.0241
>  13.1820  13.9123  15.4027 -6.17011  7.63714  9.75724 -9.87321 -5.39570 28:
>     585.19792:  12.5098 -9.64349  10.0252  13.1817  13.9134  15.4030
> -6.17046  7.63914  9.75847 -9.87320 -5.39647 29:     585.19767:  12.5098
> -9.64351  10.0253  13.1817  13.9134  15.4030 -6.17047  7.63922  9.75852
> -9.87320 -5.39650 30:     585.19762:  12.5098 -9.64352  10.0253  13.1817
>  13.9135  15.4030 -6.17047  7.63923  9.75853 -9.87320 -5.39651 31:
> 585.19752:  12.5099 -9.64353  10.0253  13.1817  13.9135  15.4030 -6.17048
>  7.63926  9.75855 -9.87320 -5.39652 32:     585.19748:  12.5099 -9.64354
>  10.0253  13.1817  13.9135  15.4030 -6.17048  7.63928  9.75856 -9.87320
> -5.39653 33:     585.19740:  12.5099 -9.64355  10.0253  13.1817  13.9135
>  15.4031 -6.17049  7.63930  9.75857 -9.87320 -5.39654 34:     585.19736:
>  12.5099 -9.64355  10.0253  13.1817  13.9135  15.4031 -6.17049  7.63931
>  9.75858 -9.87320 -5.39654 35:     585.19730:  12.5099 -9.64356  10.0253
>  13.1817  13.9135  15.4031 -6.17049  7.63933  9.75859 -9.87320 -5.39655 36:
>     585.19727:  12.5099 -9.64356  10.0253  13.1817  13.9135  15.4031
> -6.17049  7.63934  9.75860 -9.87320 -5.39655 37:     585.19722:  12.5099
> -9.64356  10.0253  13.1817  13.9135  15.4031 -6.17050  7.63936  9.75861
> -9.87320 -5.39656 38:     585.19719:  12.5099 -9.64363  10.0253  13.1817
>  13.9135  15.4031 -6.17050  7.63936  9.75861 -9.87329 -5.39656 39:
> 585.19679:  12.5100 -9.64367  10.0254  13.1817  13.9136  15.4031 -6.17052
>  7.63949  9.75869 -9.87326 -5.39661 40:     585.19677:  12.5100 -9.64367
>  10.0254  13.1817  13.9136  15.4031 -6.17052  7.63949  9.75869 -9.87326
> -5.39661 41:     585.19677:  12.5100 -9.64367  10.0254  13.1817  13.9136
>  15.4031 -6.17052  7.63949  9.75869 -9.87326 -5.39661 42:     585.19677:
>  12.5100 -9.64367  10.0254  13.1817  13.9136  15.4031 -6.17052  7.63949
>  9.75870 -9.87326 -5.39661 43:     585.19676:  12.5100 -9.64367  10.0254
>  13.1817  13.9136  15.4031 -6.17052  7.63949  9.75870 -9.87326 -5.39661 44:
>     585.19676:  12.5100 -9.64367  10.0254  13.1817  13.9136  15.4031
> -6.17052  7.63949  9.75870 -9.87326 -5.39661 45:     585.19676:  12.5100
> -9.64367  10.0254  13.1817  13.9136  15.4031 -6.17052  7.63949  9.75870
> -9.87326 -5.39661 46:     585.19676:  12.5100 -9.64367  10.0254  13.1817
>  13.9136  15.4031 -6.17052  7.63949  9.75870 -9.87326 -5.39661 47:
> 585.19676:  12.5100 -9.64367  10.0254  13.1817  13.9136  15.4031 -6.17052
>  7.63949  9.75870 -9.87326 -5.39661 48:     585.19676:  12.5100 -9.64367
>  10.0254  13.1817  13.9136  15.4031 -6.17052  7.63949  9.75870 -9.87326
> -5.39661 49:     585.19676:  12.5100 -9.64367  10.0254  13.1817  13.9136
>  15.4031 -6.17052  7.63949  9.75870 -9.87326 -5.39661 50:     585.19676:
>  12.5100 -9.64367  10.0254  13.1817  13.9136  15.4031 -6.17052  7.63949
>  9.75870 -9.87326 -5.39661 51:     585.19676:  12.5100 -9.64367  10.0254
>  13.1817  13.9136  15.4031 -6.17052  7.63949  9.75870 -9.87326 -5.39661 52:
>     585.19676:  12.5100 -9.64367  10.0254  13.1817  13.9136  15.4031
> -6.17052  7.63949  9.75870 -9.87326 -5.39661Warning message:In
> mer_finalize(ans) : false convergence (8)
> I read something on another thread about high values (like the -9.6) being
> a problem here, but I do not completely understand how to interpret or
> address it. The model will run (those results pasted below), and appear
> highly significant, but I do not know to what extent they can be
> trusted...in case it is relevant, I am using the 64-bit version of R
> 2.15.1.  (I also tried running it in the 32-bit version, with the same
> outcome.)  On another thread I also saw a suggestion about maybe trying a
> development version of R with updates using lme4a(?), but I am not sure
> where/how I would access that.  Would this be similar to using the
> pre-release version of R 3.0?
> Any help is greatly appreciated!  Thank you!!
> > summary(mm1)Generalized linear mixed model fit by the Laplace
> approximation Formula: BinomialOutcome ~ AgeGroup + Sex + Study.Site + (1 |
> BearID.reformatted)    AIC   BIC logLik deviance 607.2 662.7 -292.6
>  585.2Random effects: Groups             Name        Variance Std.Dev.
> BearID.reformatted (Intercept) 156.5    12.51   Number of obs: 1146,
> groups: BearID.reformatted, 546
> Fixed effects:                      Estimate Std. Error z value Pr(>|z|)
>  (Intercept)             -9.644     18.171  -0.531  0.59562
>  AgeGroupMiddle(6-9)     10.025      1.901   5.273 1.34e-07
> ***AgeGroupOld(10-14)      13.182      2.124   6.207 5.38e-10
> ***AgeGroupOlder(15-19)    13.914      2.270   6.129 8.82e-10
> ***AgeGroupOldest(20-29)   15.403      2.553   6.033 1.61e-09
> ***AgeGroupYearling(0-1)   -6.171      2.136  -2.889  0.00387 **
> AgeGroupYoung(4-5)       7.639      1.837   4.159 3.20e-05 ***SexM
>             9.759      2.077   4.700 2.61e-06 ***Study.SiteNorth
> -9.873     18.211  -0.542  0.58770    Study.SiteSouth         -5.397
> 18.120  -0.298  0.76584    ---Signif. codes:  0 ‘***’ 0.001 ‘**’ 0.01 ‘*’
> 0.05 ‘.’ 0.1 ‘ ’ 1
> Correlation of Fixed Effects:            (Intr) AGM(6- AGO(10 AGO(15
> AGO(20 AGY(0- AGY(4- SexM   Std.SNAgGrpM(6-9) -0.070
>                                  AgGO(10-14) -0.078  0.842
>                                 AgGO(15-19) -0.078  0.785  0.845
>                                AgGO(20-29) -0.092  0.695  0.772  0.782
>                               AgGrpY(0-1) -0.065  0.175  0.164  0.155
>  0.139                            AgGrpY(4-5) -0.066  0.917  0.794  0.739
>  0.655  0.173                     SexM        -0.067  0.142  0.181  0.181
>  0.161  0.022  0.122              Stdy.StNrth -0.987 -0.030 -0.018 -0.012
>  0.009  0.044 -0.031  0.005       Study.StSth -0.993 -0.007  0.003  0.007
>  0.029  0.042 -0.009  0.006  0.991> drop1(mm1,test="Chi")  0:
> 1142.9869:  1.12717 0.112154 0.498078 -1.83237 -1.12752  1:     1081.2050:
>  1.60169 -0.555857 0.193717 -2.08938 -1.53971  2:     1068.5254:  2.45069
> -0.231864 0.438946 -2.11102 -1.20264  3:     1012.1918:  2.79654 -0.963989
> 0.187293 -2.52731 -1.53091  4:     990.71560:  3.62551 -1.36261 0.272242
> -2.90631 -1.58628  5:     985.96908:  3.69185 -1.54796 0.225404 -2.98931
> -1.69633  6:     985.01827:  3.73506 -1.56552 0.230054 -3.00088 -1.70449
>  7:     983.15748:  3.81915 -1.60445 0.237421 -3.02517 -1.72349  8:
> 983.08384:  3.82237 -1.60620 0.237607 -3.02619 -1.72440  9:     982.49663:
>  3.84813 -1.62023 0.239089 -3.03437 -1.73166 10:     982.47321:  3.84916
> -1.62080 0.239144 -3.03470 -1.73195 11:     982.46852:  3.84936 -1.62091
> 0.239155 -3.03477 -1.73201 12:     982.46759:  3.84940 -1.62093 0.239157
> -3.03478 -1.73203 13:     982.46571:  3.84949 -1.62098 0.239162 -3.03481
> -1.73205 14:     982.46497:  3.84952 -1.62100 0.239163 -3.03482 -1.73206
> 15:     982.46482:  3.84953 -1.62100 0.239164 -3.03482 -1.73206 16:
> 982.46452:  3.84954 -1.62101 0.239165 -3.03482 -1.73206 17:     982.46440:
>  3.84954 -1.62101 0.239165 -3.03482 -1.73207 18:     982.46416:  3.84955
> -1.62102 0.239165 -3.03483 -1.73207 19:     982.46415:  3.84956 -1.62102
> 0.239165 -3.03483 -1.73207 20:     982.46413:  3.84956 -1.62102 0.239165
> -3.03483 -1.73207 21:     982.46412:  3.84956 -1.62102 0.239165 -3.03483
> -1.73207 22:     982.46412:  3.84956 -1.62102 0.239165 -3.03483 -1.73207
> 23:     982.46412:  3.84956 -1.62102 0.239165 -3.03483 -1.73207 24:
> 982.46411:  3.84956 -1.62102 0.239165 -3.03483 -1.73207 25:     982.46411:
>  3.84956 -1.62102 0.239165 -3.03483 -1.73207 26:     982.46411:  3.84956
> -1.62102 0.239165 -3.03483 -1.73207 27:     982.46411:  3.84956 -1.62102
> 0.239165 -3.03483 -1.73207 28:     982.46411:  3.84956 -1.62102 0.239165
> -3.03483 -1.73207 29:     982.46411:  3.84956 -1.62102 0.239165 -3.03483
> -1.73207 30:     982.46411:  3.84956 -1.62102 0.239165 -3.03483 -1.73207
> 31:     982.46411:  3.84956 -1.62102 0.239165 -3.03483 -1.73207 32:
> 982.46411:  3.84956 -1.62102 0.239165 -3.03483 -1.73207 33:     982.46411:
>  3.84956 -1.62102 0.239165 -3.03483 -1.73207 34:     982.46411:  3.84956
> -1.62102 0.239165 -3.03483 -1.73207 35:     982.46411:  3.84956 -1.62102
> 0.239165 -3.03483 -1.73207  0:     846.23873:  1.12717 0.278572  1.62294
>  2.11840  1.90947  2.10587 -2.01840  1.06690 -2.73438 -1.74278  1:
> 782.57480:  2.06985 0.0299759  1.59547  2.15616  1.94842  2.13149 -2.10865
>  1.00526 -2.89220 -1.83413  2:     753.61295:  2.70197 -0.340980  1.74779
>  2.41225  2.12259  2.23448 -2.57180  1.01789 -3.23420 -1.87228  3:
> 738.10476:  3.29570 -0.299320  2.03785  2.78902  2.40350  2.40852 -2.96785
>  1.20082 -3.47035 -1.61857  4:     728.66127:  3.31362 -0.914342  2.12930
>  3.06234  2.68853  2.60813 -3.41552  1.29034 -3.76833 -1.96507  5:
> 701.68897:  4.04137 -1.01781  2.69656  3.91014  3.76832  3.42789 -3.74032
>  1.90141 -4.08166 -1.90103  6:     689.12608:  4.84724 -1.55798  3.43921
>  4.54662  4.49161  4.19576 -3.85503  1.53634 -4.97302 -1.68093  7:
> 680.34212:  5.36203 -2.02536  3.05587  5.15610  5.16426  5.04233 -4.05659
>  2.74386 -5.54570 -1.72882  8:     667.22226:  6.08154 -2.37754  4.11778
>  5.54917  5.86894  6.17563 -4.21197  3.03995 -5.76776 -2.09495  9:
> 664.47575:  6.06600 -2.42357  4.64402  6.73615  6.65646  6.86680 -4.26329
>  2.22249 -6.39419 -1.70686 10:     647.69848:  7.74453 -3.47288  5.41815
>  7.92869  8.85059  9.56958 -4.11881  3.26041 -7.77022 -2.09666 11:
> 638.93978:  8.79169 -4.18571  6.99604  10.2563  10.1169  11.9327 -4.92184
>  4.83083 -8.83127 -2.61207 12:     633.33087:  9.53588 -4.77408  8.42878
>  11.1711  12.9052  13.9993 -5.89202  5.96007 -10.5890 -2.36388 13:
> 630.45779:  10.7575 -5.38093  9.48786  12.8797  14.3611  15.6814 -6.19947
>  6.85492 -11.8973 -2.57628 14:     628.17396:  12.0808 -5.93880  11.0813
>  14.7980  15.8619  17.6309 -6.84669  8.14910 -13.8265 -2.62288 15:
> 626.38979:  13.3687 -6.31872  12.6906  16.3895  17.1567  18.9418 -7.49507
>  9.48600 -15.7712 -2.66234 16:     626.07854:  13.3945 -6.28237  12.7024
>  16.3787  17.1587  18.9391 -7.48857  9.50058 -15.7600 -2.63880 17:
> 625.49381:  13.4464 -6.21064  12.7259  16.3558  17.1622  18.9335 -7.47575
>  9.53137 -15.7383 -2.59199 18:     623.67612:  13.6575 -5.93293  12.8203
>  16.2521  17.1718  18.9085 -7.42601  9.66881 -15.6582 -2.40785 19:
> 623.63763:  13.6638 -5.92773  12.8224  16.2477  17.1714  18.9074 -7.42498
>  9.67478 -15.6573 -2.40399 20:     623.34565:  13.7146 -5.88664  12.8388
>  16.2124  17.1678  18.8985 -7.41682  9.72290 -15.6506 -2.37332 21:
> 623.34453:  13.7148 -5.88649  12.8388  16.2123  17.1678  18.8985 -7.41679
>  9.72311 -15.6506 -2.37320 22:     623.34231:  13.7152 -5.88620  12.8390
>  16.2120  17.1677  18.8984 -7.41673  9.72351 -15.6505 -2.37297 23:
> 623.34142:  13.7154 -5.88608  12.8390  16.2118  17.1677  18.8984 -7.41671
>  9.72368 -15.6505 -2.37288 24:     623.33964:  13.7157 -5.88585  12.8391
>  16.2116  17.1677  18.8983 -7.41666  9.72400 -15.6505 -2.37270 25:
> 623.33893:  13.7158 -5.88575  12.8392  16.2115  17.1677  18.8983 -7.41664
>  9.72414 -15.6505 -2.37262 26:     623.33751:  13.7161 -5.88557  12.8392
>  16.2113  17.1677  18.8982 -7.41660  9.72440 -15.6505 -2.37247 27:
> 623.33694:  13.7162 -5.88549  12.8393  16.2113  17.1676  18.8982 -7.41659
>  9.72450 -15.6505 -2.37242 28:     623.33683:  13.7162 -5.88548  12.8393
>  16.2112  17.1676  18.8982 -7.41659  9.72452 -15.6505 -2.37240 29:
> 623.33660:  13.7163 -5.88545  12.8393  16.2112  17.1676  18.8982 -7.41658
>  9.72456 -15.6505 -2.37238 30:     623.33651:  13.7163 -5.88543  12.8393
>  16.2112  17.1676  18.8982 -7.41658  9.72458 -15.6505 -2.37237 31:
> 623.33633:  13.7163 -5.88541  12.8393  16.2112  17.1676  18.8982 -7.41657
>  9.72462 -15.6505 -2.37235 32:     623.33625:  13.7163 -5.88540  12.8393
>  16.2112  17.1676  18.8982 -7.41657  9.72463 -15.6505 -2.37234 33:
> 623.33611:  13.7164 -5.88538  12.8393  16.2112  17.1676  18.8982 -7.41657
>  9.72466 -15.6504 -2.37233 34:     623.33605:  13.7164 -5.88537  12.8393
>  16.2111  17.1676  18.8982 -7.41657  9.72467 -15.6504 -2.37232 35:
> 623.33604:  13.7164 -5.88537  12.8393  16.2111  17.1676  18.8982 -7.41657
>  9.72467 -15.6504 -2.37232 36:     623.33604:  13.7164 -5.88537  12.8393
>  16.2111  17.1676  18.8982 -7.41657  9.72467 -15.6504 -2.37232 37:
> 623.33603:  13.7164 -5.88537  12.8393  16.2111  17.1676  18.8982 -7.41657
>  9.72467 -15.6504 -2.37232 38:     623.33603:  13.7164 -5.88537  12.8393
>  16.2111  17.1676  18.8982 -7.41657  9.72467 -15.6504 -2.37232 39:
> 623.33603:  13.7164 -5.88537  12.8393  16.2111  17.1676  18.8982 -7.41657
>  9.72467 -15.6504 -2.37232 40:     623.33603:  13.7164 -5.88537  12.8393
>  16.2111  17.1676  18.8982 -7.41657  9.72467 -15.6504 -2.37232 41:
> 623.33603:  13.7164 -5.88537  12.8393  16.2111  17.1676  18.8982 -7.41657
>  9.72467 -15.6504 -2.37232 42:     623.33603:  13.7164 -5.88537  12.8393
>  16.2111  17.1676  18.8982 -7.41657  9.72467 -15.6504 -2.37232 43:
> 623.33603:  13.7164 -5.88537  12.8393  16.2111  17.1676  18.8982 -7.41657
>  9.72467 -15.6504 -2.37232 44:     623.33603:  13.7164 -5.88537  12.8393
>  16.2111  17.1676  18.8982 -7.41657  9.72467 -15.6504 -2.37232 45:
> 623.33603:  13.7164 -5.88537  12.8393  16.2111  17.1676  18.8982 -7.41657
>  9.72467 -15.6504 -2.37232 46:     623.33603:  13.7164 -5.88537  12.8393
>  16.2111  17.1676  18.8982 -7.41657  9.72467 -15.6504 -2.37232 47:
> 623.33603:  13.7164 -5.88537  12.8393  16.2111  17.1676  18.8982 -7.41657
>  9.72467 -15.6504 -2.37232 48:     623.33603:  13.7164 -5.88537  12.8393
>  16.2111  17.1676  18.8982 -7.41657  9.72467 -15.6504 -2.37232 49:
> 623.33603:  13.7164 -5.88537  12.8393  16.2111  17.1676  18.8982 -7.41657
>  9.72467 -15.6504 -2.37232 50:     623.33603:  13.7164 -5.88537  12.8393
>  16.2111  17.1676  18.8982 -7.41657  9.72467 -15.6504 -2.37232 51:
> 623.33603:  13.7164 -5.88537  12.8393  16.2111  17.1676  18.8982 -7.41657
>  9.72467 -15.6504 -2.37232 52:     623.33603:  13.7164 -5.88537  12.8393
>  16.2111  17.1676  18.8982 -7.41657  9.72467 -15.6504 -2.37232 53:
> 623.33603:  13.7164 -5.88537  12.8393  16.2111  17.1676  18.8982 -7.41657
>  9.72467 -15.6504 -2.37232 54:     623.18051:  13.7164 -5.88537  12.8393
>  15.9611  17.1676  18.8982 -7.41657  9.72467 -15.6504 -2.37232 55:
> 623.17193:  13.7182 -5.88422  12.8400  15.9611  17.1676  18.8980 -7.41637
>  9.72650 -15.6504 -2.37129 56:     623.17048:  13.7186 -5.88404  12.8402
>  15.9611  17.1675  18.8980 -7.41638  9.72686 -15.6507 -2.37116 57:
> 623.16693:  13.7192 -5.88342  12.8403  15.9611  17.1674  18.8978 -7.41629
>  9.72752 -15.6506 -2.37069 58:     623.16551:  13.7195 -5.88317  12.8403
>  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41625  9.72778 -15.6505 -2.37050 59:
> 623.16522:  13.7196 -5.88312  12.8403  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41624
>  9.72783 -15.6505 -2.37046 60:     623.16522:  13.7196 -5.88312  12.8403
>  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41624  9.72784 -15.6505 -2.37046 61:
> 623.16520:  13.7196 -5.88312  12.8403  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41624
>  9.72784 -15.6505 -2.37046 62:     623.16520:  13.7196 -5.88312  12.8403
>  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41624  9.72784 -15.6505 -2.37046 63:
> 623.16519:  13.7196 -5.88312  12.8403  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41624
>  9.72784 -15.6505 -2.37046 64:     623.16519:  13.7196 -5.88312  12.8403
>  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41624  9.72784 -15.6505 -2.37046 65:
> 623.16518:  13.7196 -5.88312  12.8403  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41624
>  9.72784 -15.6505 -2.37046 66:     623.16518:  13.7196 -5.88312  12.8403
>  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41624  9.72784 -15.6505 -2.37046 67:
> 623.16518:  13.7196 -5.88312  12.8403  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41624
>  9.72784 -15.6505 -2.37046 68:     623.16518:  13.7196 -5.88312  12.8403
>  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41624  9.72784 -15.6505 -2.37046 69:
> 623.16518:  13.7196 -5.88312  12.8403  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41624
>  9.72784 -15.6505 -2.37046 70:     623.16518:  13.7196 -5.88312  12.8403
>  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41624  9.72784 -15.6505 -2.37046 71:
> 623.16518:  13.7196 -5.88312  12.8403  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41624
>  9.72784 -15.6505 -2.37046 72:     623.16518:  13.7196 -5.88312  12.8403
>  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41624  9.72784 -15.6505 -2.37046 73:
> 623.16518:  13.7196 -5.88312  12.8403  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41624
>  9.72784 -15.6505 -2.37046 74:     623.16518:  13.7196 -5.88312  12.8403
>  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41624  9.72784 -15.6505 -2.37046 75:
> 623.16518:  13.7196 -5.88312  12.8403  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41624
>  9.72784 -15.6505 -2.37046 76:     623.16518:  13.7196 -5.88312  12.8403
>  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41624  9.72784 -15.6505 -2.37046 77:
> 623.16518:  13.7196 -5.88312  12.8403  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41624
>  9.72784 -15.6505 -2.37046 78:     623.16518:  13.7196 -5.88312  12.8403
>  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41624  9.72784 -15.6505 -2.37046 79:
> 623.16518:  13.7196 -5.88312  12.8403  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41624
>  9.72784 -15.6505 -2.37046 80:     623.16518:  13.7196 -5.88312  12.8403
>  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41624  9.72784 -15.6505 -2.37046 81:
> 623.16518:  13.7196 -5.88312  12.8403  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41624
>  9.72784 -15.6505 -2.37046 82:     623.16518:  13.7196 -5.88312  12.8403
>  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41624  9.72784 -15.6505 -2.37046 83:
> 623.16518:  13.7196 -5.88312  12.8403  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41624
>  9.72784 -15.6505 -2.37046 84:     623.16518:  13.7196 -5.88312  12.8403
>  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41624  9.72784 -15.6505 -2.37046 85:
> 623.16518:  13.7196 -5.88312  12.8403  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41624
>  9.72784 -15.6505 -2.37046 86:     623.16518:  13.7196 -5.88312  12.8403
>  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41624  9.72784 -15.6505 -2.37046 87:
> 623.16518:  13.7196 -5.88312  12.8403  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41624
>  9.72784 -15.6505 -2.37046 88:     623.16518:  13.7196 -5.88312  12.8403
>  15.9610  17.1673  18.8977 -7.41624  9.72784 -15.6505 -2.37046  0:
> 825.98095:  1.12717 -2.41703  1.72745  2.29886  2.38549  2.31902 -2.27887
>  1.25352  1.44017  1:     768.06345:  2.07624 -2.69053  1.69566  2.34024
>  2.41265  2.34773 -2.37055  1.17396  1.36650  2:     744.59077:  2.64935
> -3.24446  1.82758  2.59452  2.55449  2.46280 -2.86209  1.12221  1.29582  3:
>     736.99381:  3.31052 -3.04318  2.10131  2.92439  2.77195  2.62569
> -3.08356  1.30064  1.72466  4:     716.74511:  3.35950 -3.72313  2.20986
>  3.22603  3.05744  2.84362 -3.61472  1.44647  1.73457  5:     707.12863:
>  3.89898 -3.87644  2.51353  3.59176  3.42641  3.14595 -3.75592  1.52247
>  2.18869  6:     689.81755:  4.12426 -4.92704  2.63166  4.11921  4.40079
>  4.06922 -3.48138  1.98536  2.86830  7:     683.90531:  4.21462 -5.38729
>  3.16190  4.39849  4.60220  4.33037 -3.99172  1.87999  2.70646  8:
> 675.06843:  4.59730 -5.39681  3.42996  4.74518  4.97995  4.86626 -3.96617
>  2.31903  2.86066  9:     664.23055:  5.07016 -6.40610  3.56999  5.71434
>  5.74554  5.68005 -4.33364  2.24829  3.45485 10:     652.85574:  5.78110
> -8.29863  4.98085  5.94655  7.54105  7.78951 -4.04472  2.82537  4.69931 11:
>     635.98569:  6.73243 -9.86573  6.01804  7.60838  8.72554  9.99925
> -4.38569  4.20022  5.22814 12:     619.31300:  8.70673 -12.4571  7.76927
>  11.4392  12.0721  14.0201 -3.85823  4.87447  7.80232 13:     613.90764:
>  8.97979 -12.6322  7.57432  11.2713  12.1345  13.9846 -4.10848  5.48588
>  7.66889 14:     608.91045:  9.73499 -13.5700  8.10962  11.8333  12.9044
>  14.5777 -4.50807  6.06720  8.37211 15:     608.87892:  9.74003 -13.5711
>  8.11291  11.8313  12.9046  14.5771 -4.51043  6.07105  8.37336 16:
> 608.81647:  9.75010 -13.5733  8.11946  11.8272  12.9050  14.5758 -4.51517
>  6.07875  8.37587 17:     608.81399:  9.75050 -13.5734  8.11972  11.8271
>  12.9050  14.5758 -4.51536  6.07906  8.37597 18:     608.79417:  9.75371
> -13.5741  8.12181  11.8258  12.9052  14.5754 -4.51690  6.08152  8.37679 19:
>     608.79338:  9.75384 -13.5742  8.12189  11.8257  12.9052  14.5754
> -4.51696  6.08161  8.37682 20:     608.79322:  9.75387 -13.5742  8.12191
>  11.8257  12.9052  14.5754 -4.51698  6.08163  8.37683 21:     608.79291:
>  9.75392 -13.5742  8.12194  11.8257  12.9052  14.5753 -4.51700  6.08167
>  8.37684 22:     608.79278:  9.75394 -13.5742  8.12196  11.8257  12.9052
>  14.5753 -4.51701  6.08169  8.37684 23:     608.79253:  9.75398 -13.5742
>  8.12198  11.8257  12.9052  14.5753 -4.51703  6.08172  8.37685 24:
> 608.79243:  9.75400 -13.5742  8.12199  11.8257  12.9052  14.5753 -4.51704
>  6.08173  8.37686 25:     608.79223:  9.75403 -13.5742  8.12202  11.8257
>  12.9052  14.5753 -4.51705  6.08176  8.37687 26:     608.79214:  9.75404
> -13.5742  8.12202  11.8257  12.9052  14.5753 -4.51706  6.08177  8.37687 27:
>     608.79213:  9.75405 -13.5742  8.12203  11.8257  12.9052  14.5753
> -4.51706  6.08177  8.37687 28:     608.79210:  9.75405 -13.5742  8.12203
>  11.8257  12.9052  14.5753 -4.51706  6.08177  8.37687 29:     608.79208:
>  9.75405 -13.5742  8.12203  11.8257  12.9052  14.5753 -4.51706  6.08178
>  8.37687 30:     608.79206:  9.75406 -13.5742  8.12203  11.8257  12.9052
>  14.5753 -4.51707  6.08178  8.37687 31:     608.79205:  9.75406 -13.5742
>  8.12203  11.8257  12.9052  14.5753 -4.51707  6.08178  8.37687 32:
> 608.79204:  9.75406 -13.5742  8.12203  11.8257  12.9052  14.5753 -4.51707
>  6.08178  8.37687 33:     608.79204:  9.75406 -13.5742  8.12203  11.8257
>  12.9052  14.5753 -4.51707  6.08178  8.37687 34:     608.79203:  9.75406
> -13.5742  8.12203  11.8257  12.9052  14.5753 -4.51707  6.08178  8.37688 35:
>     608.79203:  9.75406 -13.5742  8.12203  11.8257  12.9052  14.5753
> -4.51707  6.08178  8.37688 36:     608.79203:  9.75406 -13.5742  8.12204
>  11.8257  12.9052  14.5753 -4.51707  6.08178  8.37688 37:     608.79203:
>  9.75406 -13.5742  8.12204  11.8257  12.9052  14.5753 -4.51707  6.08178
>  8.37688 38:     608.79203:  9.75406 -13.5742  8.12204  11.8257  12.9052
>  14.5753 -4.51707  6.08178  8.37688 39:     608.79203:  9.75406 -13.5742
>  8.12204  11.8257  12.9052  14.5753 -4.51707  6.08178  8.37688 40:
> 608.79203:  9.75406 -13.5742  8.12204  11.8257  12.9052  14.5753 -4.51707
>  6.08178  8.37688 41:     608.79203:  9.75406 -13.5742  8.12204  11.8257
>  12.9052  14.5753 -4.51707  6.08178  8.37688 42:     608.79203:  9.75406
> -13.5742  8.12204  11.8257  12.9052  14.5753 -4.51707  6.08178  8.37688 43:
>     608.79203:  9.75406 -13.5742  8.12204  11.8257  12.9052  14.5753
> -4.51707  6.08178  8.37688 44:     608.79203:  9.75406 -13.5742  8.12204
>  11.8257  12.9052  14.5753 -4.51707  6.08178  8.37688 45:     608.79203:
>  9.75406 -13.5742  8.12204  11.8257  12.9052  14.5753 -4.51707  6.08178
>  8.37688 46:     608.79203:  9.75406 -13.5742  8.12204  11.8257  12.9052
>  14.5753 -4.51707  6.08178  8.37688Single term deletions
> Model:BinomialOutcome ~ AgeGroup + Sex + Study.Site + (1 |
> BearID.reformatted)           Df    AIC    LRT   Pr(Chi)    <none>
>  607.20                     AgeGroup    6 992.46 397.27 < 2.2e-16 ***Sex
>       1 643.17  37.97 7.190e-10 ***Study.Site  2 626.79  23.60 7.522e-06
> ***---Signif. codes:  0 ‘***’ 0.001 ‘**’ 0.01 ‘*’ 0.05 ‘.’ 0.1 ‘ ’ 1
> Warning messages:1: In mer_finalize(ans) : false convergence (8)2: In
> mer_finalize(ans) : false convergence (8)3: In mer_finalize(ans) : false
> convergence (8)>
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