Dear list, I am needing to extract the estimate of overdispersion (deviance / residual degrees of freedom or c-hat) from multiple model objects - so they can then be used to compare the extent of overdispersion among alternative models as well as calculate qausi-AIC values. I have been unable to do this, despite consulting a number of manuals and searching the R-help. I am imaging that in theory it should be possible with some call to attr(), but i have so far had no success. An example model output would be: > modeltest<-lmer(Coleodactylus_amazonicus_N~USD + (1|site),data=SFArray,family=poisson,method="Laplace",control=list(usePQL=FALSE, msVerbose=TRUE)) > summary(modeltest) ------------ Generalized linear mixed model fit using Laplace Formula: Coleodactylus_amazonicus_N ~ USD + (1 | site) Data: SFArray Family: poisson(log link) AIC BIC logLik deviance 75.94996 81.68603 -34.97498 69.94996 Random effects: Groups Name Variance Std.Dev. site (Intercept) 2.6076 1.6148 number of obs: 50, groups: site, 5 Estimated scale (compare to 1) 1.080798 ------------ What I need is to extract this value (1.080798) from multiple lmer objects. Has anyone any recommendations? I also need to do this for glm objects although I suspect if someone was able to kindly point me in the right direction then the solution is likely to be similar. Very many thanks, Toby Gardner > sessionInfo() Version 2.3.1 (2006-06-01) i386-pc-mingw32 attached base packages: [1] "datasets" "graphics" "grDevices" "methods" "stats" "utils" "base" other attached packages: JGR iplots JavaGD lme4 Matrix lattice MASS rJava "1.4-7" "1.0-3" "0.3-4" "0.995-2" "0.995-15" "0.13-8" "7.2-27.1" "0.4-6" School of Environmental Sciences University of East Anglia Norwich, NR4 7TJ United Kingdom Email: t.gardner@uea.ac.uk Website: www.uea.ac.uk/~e387495 [[alternative HTML version deleted]]