Only the random portion will differ as in: 

lmer(lognrms ~ Group*Rotation*muscle*side*support*arms + (1|Subject) + (1|Stratum) + (1|rep), Data)


-----Original Message-----
From:	r-help-bounces@stat.math.ethz.ch on behalf of Ross Darnell
Sent:	Mon 9/12/2005 9:28 PM
To:	r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch
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Subject:	[R] Translating lme model call to lme4

I would appreciate help translating the following lme model to an lmer 
function.

lme(lognrms ~ Group*Rotation*muscle*side*support*arms,
                 random=~1|Subject/Stratum2/rep, data=Data)



Many thanks

Ross Darnell
r.darnell@uq.edu.au

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