[R] Chatbot -generated R Code

Robert Knight bobby@kn|ght @end|ng |rom gm@||@com
Tue Dec 9 16:39:47 CET 2025


It seems like malpractice to recommend Claude to someone using R or big
data since what they would use it for is *explicitly* against the terms of
service.  Machine learning predates the microchip.

See below.

Also, quality control will make a comeback.  Expert systems cannot be
replaced with something akin to Bayes probability charts indedinitely.

you may not use the service to “develop any products or services that
compete with our Services, including to develop or train any artificial
intelligence or machine learning algorithms or models.”

Claude’s terms further state

“*Equitable relief.* You agree that (a) no adequate remedy exists at law if
you breach Section 3 (Use of Our Services); (b) it would be difficult to
determine the damages resulting from such breach, and any such breach would
cause irreparable harm; and (c) a grant of injunctive relief provides the
best remedy for any such breach. You waive any opposition to such
injunctive relief, as well as any demand that we prove actual damage or
post a bond or other security in connection with such injunctive relief.”

Machine learning includes linear regression. Other Machine Learning
algorithms include Logistic Regression, decision trees, random forests,
support vector machines, K-Nearest Neighbors, & Bayes Algorithms. It seems
to me, that as of 14 October 2024, no one seeking to handle any data
science can legitimately use Claude


On Tuesday, December 9, 2025, Gregg Powell via R-help <r-help using r-project.org>
wrote:

> Humans who don't adapt to LLMs, or whatever form AI takes as it evolves,
> will be left in the dust.
>
> People may just now be waking up to the fact that we're three years into a
> tremendous revolution, one of the greatest in human history. It follows the
> Bronze Age, the Iron Age, the Industrial Revolution, the computer
> revolution, the Information Age, and now... AI.
>
> AGI is approaching. How quickly? Who can say. Whether AI can ever be truly
> sentient remains a mystery. But once it can adequately replicate sentience,
> some will ask: what's the difference?
>
> As to the question of who judges what's acceptable from a coding
> standpoint: capitalism will. Corporations will. And the question of whether
> this is the future of coding is already behind us. It is coding now, and it
> will only continue to improve in capability.
>
> Try Replit, Cursor, Claude Code. Humans are incapable of keeping up. AI
> still struggles with some of the most complex tasks, and it does poorly at
> orchestrating across large repositories, but it's improving rapidly.
> Just my observations.
>
>
> Those who look down their noses at all this will be left behind.
>
> All the best!
> Gregg
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 9th, 2025 at 6:32 AM, Hans W <hwborchers using gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > SORRY if I missed such a discussion somewhere on R-HELP
> >
>
> > For many years I wanted to write an R function that finds the closest
> pair of
> > points among a, maybe huge, set of points on the 2-dimensional plane. I
> never
> > did, perhaps considering the possible complexity of this task.
> >
>
> > Now I found a book, among others describing the "sweeping algorithm",
> perfectly
> > suited for the problem. And as a test, I questioned chatbots like
> DeepSeek and
> > ChatGPT about such a function - and mentioned the sweeping algorithm.
> >
>
> > DeepSeek, for instance, came immediately up with a complete, efficient
> solution
> > and test cases that I checked with brute force. I can see that it
> utilized the
> > sweeping algorithm, documented the code, and set up a help file. I made
> some
> > changes, improved the code a bit, but still it is code generated by a
> clever
> > chatbot, whatever I do.
> >
>
> > Now I ask myself: Is this a correct and lawful way to write code in the
> future?
> > I am not even sure DeepSeek may not have used an implementation of the
> sweeping
> > algorithm that is under ACM license and would not be allowed on CRAN.
> >
>
> > I wonder how one handles this matter? Will this be the future of code
> writing
> > (for R and other languages)? I would really appreciate to hear your
> opinion or
> > a hint to a discussion about it.
> >
>
> > Hans Werner
> >
>
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