[R] [off-topic] crossword

Fri Dec 13 21:13:19 CET 2024

I hesitate to say this and stray back on topic.

R is basically an extension of C as it was written in C and many added functions end up being rewritten in a variant of C, albeit other languages may at times intrude. Something similar could be said of C-Python. 

But I truly doubt the ones making this puzzle know or care. If they eventually want to make some new puzzle, they can search for a list of all programming languages invented and find stuff like here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programming_languages

I have studied lots of languages but this list is daunting. It does have quite a few single (or close) character language names the cruciverbalist can use.

There was an A+ it seems and a B, and besides C, quite a few variants like C++, C--, C*. C#, and there was a D, and an E, and not only an F but an F# and F*.

There was no G but there is a GO, and there is not only a J but a sharp and ++ version, and a K but no L nor even a Noel.

There is an M, of sorts and variants and a P and variants and there is a Q.

We then get to R and there is also an R++, whatever that is. Given R does not support ++, I wonder.

And, of course, an assortment of S, and a T and even a V and oddly an X++ and Z++.

So, someone who knows nothing about programming has a number of games they can play just using the list of languages they can search for. R was not chosen as something they had heard of, just as a letter of the alphabet that would help them make a puzzle. Neither, necessarily, was C.

All this leads to a question.

S was supposed to mean something like Statistics and was not public domain. When R came along as a public language, I thing someone considered it as S-- meaning S sripped of something and obviously that became the letter before S, meaning R.

What if we wanted a spin off of R, perhaps a more lightweight version, or one where the Tidyverse was part of the base? The obvious (to maybe just me) idea would be that R-- -> Q, right?

But as Q is already taken, it may never happen.

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From: R-help <r-help-bounces using r-project.org> On Behalf Of Erin Hodgess
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2024 10:06 AM
To: CALUM POLWART <polc1410 using gmail.com>
Cc: r-help using r-project.org
Subject: Re: [R] [off-topic] crossword

RULES means that anyone who uses C or R RULES the Universe.  They just do.

Erin Hodgess, PhD
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On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 1:02 AM CALUM POLWART <polc1410 using gmail.com> wrote:

> Well to complicate things, I don't think RULES is the answer.
>
> This is a cryptic crossword clue. They usually contain the answer twice
> (well... Cryptically!!)
>
> Writes in C or R, say.
>
> I think the answer is CODER
>
> If you look up the definition of say in the dictionary one option is:
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>
>    1. give instructions to or direct somebody to do something with
>    authority (verb)
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>
> That's the simple part of the clue. (Notice the comma cryptic clues have
> two parts giving the "same" answer)
>
> The more complex part I think is  that and 'ode' (a poem that is written
> like it is said or something) is written in between C and R  giving C ODE
> R,
>
> ...
>
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> Very happy to be corrected...
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>
> (Oh and as a third part a coder writes in C or R... I hope the JavaScript
> kids are listening ;-) )
>
> On Fri, 13 Dec 2024, 04:26 Ebert,Timothy Aaron, <tebert using ufl.edu> wrote:
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>> I do not understand the question and I do not understand the answer.
>> Possibly one confounds the other.
>>
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>> RULES!
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>> Erin Hodgess, PhD
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>> On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 9:42 AM Bill Dunlap <williamwdunlap using gmail.com>
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>> > The New York Times crossword this morning had the clue (51 down, 5
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