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[Duncan Murdoch]

On 09/11/2021 3:52 p.m., Jeff Newmiller wrote:
> I understand that, but the reason he gives for copying code from the stats package is to change the license. That decision seems like something that requires a very direct communication with/permission from the maintainer.

The stats package doesn't give a valid maintainer() address.  It gives a 
vague reference to the r-project.org website, but that website doesn't 
give a contact address.

In fact, the authorship of R is very widely distributed among at least 
dozens of contributors.  Identifying and contacting them all would be a 
nightmare but probably isn't necessary.  However, identifying and 
contacting the necessary ones (the ones who hold copyright on the parts 
he wants to copy) would be very difficult.  Not contacting the relevant 
ones would mean Arnaud's work would be potentially in violation of their 
copyright.

Even if he did manage to contact all the copyright holders, some of them 
would probably not agree to more permissive licenses.  For example, I am 
a copyright holder on some parts of the source, and I wouldn't agree to 
relicensing.

Duncan Murdoch



> 
> On November 9, 2021 12:21:18 PM PST, Duncan Murdoch <murdoch.duncan using gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 09/11/2021 2:45 p.m., Jeff Newmiller wrote:
>>> This question isn't a "how to do package development" question... this is about a specific package so you should send email to the package developer identified by the maintainer() function.
>>
>> I think Arnaud is the package developer; his question is whether he can
>> copy R source into his package.
>>
>> Duncan Murdoch
>>
>>>
>>> I can't foresee this request finding a positive response from R Core, but email seems the most correct approach.
>>>
>>> On November 9, 2021 11:34:12 AM PST, Bert Gunter <bgunter.4567 using gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Questions about package development should be posted to
>>>> R-package-devel (**not R-devel**).
>>>> See https://www.r-project.org/mail.html  for details.
>>>>
>>>> (I am not sure that they get into legal weeds there, but it seems like
>>>> the right place to try).
>>>>
>>>> Bert Gunter
>>>>
>>>> "The trouble with having an open mind is that people keep coming along
>>>> and sticking things into it."
>>>> -- Opus (aka Berkeley Breathed in his "Bloom County" comic strip )
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 11:17 AM Arnaud FELD <arnaud.feldmann using gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I use that mailing list because I’ve tried to send a message to the
>>>>> r-core address and received :
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Non-members are typically *NOT* allowed to post messages to this
>>>>>> private developers' list. Please use an appropriate mailing list (from
>>>>>> http://www.r-project.org/mail.html). For R packages, use
>>>>>> maintainer("<pkg>") in R (and if that is R-core using .., use the R-help
>>>>>> address).
>>>>>
>>>>>    I would like to borrow most of the code of stats :: window within my
>>>>> package disaggR, which has an uncompatible license as it is MIT not
>>>>> GPL2. window has some extra overhead because of the calling of time()
>>>>> at the beginning of the function (that is only used for extend =
>>>>> FALSE). Copying the function and modifying it would allow me a bit of
>>>>> optimization, but I need some agreement as my package is MIT.
>>>>> Is it possible ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Arnaud FELDMANN
>>>>>
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>>
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