[R] [FORGED] Re: Regarding R licensing usage guidance

Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA Federal roy@mende|@@ohn @end|ng |rom no@@@gov
Thu Jul 25 00:09:42 CEST 2019


Hi Rolf:

As they say,  do read the posting guide:

> Good manners: Remember that customs differ. Some people are very direct. Others surround everything they say with hedges and apologies. Be tolerant. Rudeness is never warranted, but sometimes `read the manual’ is the appropriate response. Don’t waste time discussing such matters on the list. Ad hominem comments are absolutely out of place.


-Roy


> 
> On Jul 24, 2019, at 2:49 PM, Rolf Turner <r.turner using auckland.ac.nz> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 25/07/19 4:36 AM, Weiwen Ng, MPH wrote:
> 
>> Here's one way to phrase your reply:
>> "I'd recommend you search Google. For example, the search string
>> "proprietary use GPL" produces one hit that's clearly relevant to you:
> 
> <SNIP>
> 
>> This method is more neutrally worded. It doesn't insult the original
>> poster. It doesn't assume the poster had bad intent.
>> Instead, you chose to phrase it thus:
>> "Your internet skills are pathetic. Search Google for "proprietary use gpl"
>> and the first hit is ...  Note that there are (at least) three obvious
>> alternatives if there is any question in your case ...   I think your
>> desperation to steal the hard work of the various R contributors seems
>> quite odious."
>> Think about the overall tone of your post. Consider also that someone who
>> agrees with you substantive argument said that your comments were "often
>> (almost always?) a bit rough about the edges."
> 
> Yeah, but Jeff's rough-about-the-edges phrasing is much more colourful, and colourful is *GOOD*.  There is far too much bland "Shhhh. We *mustn't* offend anybody" content in current discourse.  Tell it like it is!  Ripley into people!  If the recipient can't take the heat, he or she should get out of the kitchen!
> 
> See also fortunes::fortune(87).
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Rolf Turner
> 
> P.S.  Jeff makes a huge and extremely useful contribution to R-help.  He gives generously of time and effort to solve beginners' problems.  They should appreciate the time and effort and not whinge about being offended.
> 
> R. T.
> 
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