[R] can we visualize water flows with 3d in R?

[Karline Soetaert]

... and maybe she can find some inspiration at this website:
http://www.rforscience.com/rpackages/visualisation/oceanview/


Karline

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From: Duncan Murdoch [mailto:murdoch.duncan at gmail.com] 
Sent: donderdag 13 oktober 2016 15:20
To: Thomas Adams <tea3rd at gmail.com>; David Winsemius <dwinsemius at comcast.net>
Cc: r-help mailing list <r-help at r-project.org>; Karline Soetaert <Karline.Soetaert at nioz.nl>
Subject: Re: [R] can we visualize water flows with 3d in R?

On 13/10/2016 8:35 AM, Thomas Adams wrote:
> All,
>
> Very respectfully, there are no R packages that can do what Marna desires.

I would guess that's not literally true, in that there are several 
graphics packages that are very flexible.   You could well be right that 
there are none that are designed specifically for this purpose, so she's probably going to have to do some work to get what she wants.

> His/Her data, undoubtably, comes from a 1-D hydraulic model simulation
> -- where output is generated at channel cross-sections -- representing 
> the sloping water surface elevation of the centerline of flow in a 
> stream or river. With mapping software for such problems, the 
> assumption is made that the water surface intersects the topography 
> (within or beyond the stream channel) perpendicular to the direction 
> of flow. Hydrodynamically, this is generally not correct, but it's a 
> reasonable approximation. To do this, typically, the topography -- in 
> the from of a raster digital elevation model (DEM) -- is converted to 
> a triangular irregular network (TIN) to facilitate the creation of a 
> smoother line of intersection between the water surface and 
> topography. Because, the water surface slopes in a downstream 
> direction, contour lines are crossed. Hydraulic modeling software 
> usually is accompanied by this mapping capability, such as with 
> HEC-RAS with RAS-Mapper, developed by the US Army Corps of Engineers, 
> or with HEC-GeoRAS, which requires ESRI ARC GIS; but, there is also a 
> QGIS plugin module that can do this, I believe. These software 
> packages do facilitate representing the flow in 3D.

Do you know any sample figures online that would show the type of graph that is usually used here?

Duncan Murdoch
>
> Tom
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 6:12 PM, David Winsemius 
> <dwinsemius at comcast.net <mailto:dwinsemius at comcast.net>> wrote:
>
>
>     > On Oct 12, 2016, at 4:28 AM, Duncan Murdoch
>     <murdoch.duncan at gmail.com <mailto:murdoch.duncan at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     > On 12/10/2016 4:49 AM, Marna Wagley wrote:
>     >> Hi R Users,
>     >> Is it possible to visualize river flow in 3D (latitude,
>     longitude with
>     >> respect to depth)?
>     >> The example of my data looks like. Any suggestions?
>     >>
>     >>> dat1
>     >>    long lat depth flow
>     >> 1 1015.9 857  1.00 1.50
>     >> 2 1015.9 857  1.25 1.23
>     >> 3 1015.9 857  0.50 2.00
>     >> 4 1015.9 858  0.10 1.95
>     >> 5 1015.9 858  0.20 1.50
>     >> 6 1025.0 858  0.30 1.20
>     >> 7 1025.0 858  0.40 0.50
>     >> 8 1025.0 858  0.35 0.70
>     >> 9 1025.0 858  0.24 1.20
>     >>
>     >> Thanks for your help.
>     >
>     > It may be, but it's hard to give a nice looking graphic of that
>     small dataset.  You could try the rgl package and use plot3d to
>     show spheres with radius depending on the flow rate, for example
>     >
>     > plot3d(cbind(long, lat, depth), type="s", col="blue", 
> radius=flow/5)
>
>     A complementary option is to install the plot3D package which I
>     see also has a plot3Drgl "co-package". The advantage to this
>     option is the association with beautiful modeling packages that
>     Karline Soetaert, Peter M. J. Herman, and Thomas Petzoldt have
>     been offering to ecologists for the last decade. (Packages:
>     deSolve, marelac, seacarb, AquaEnv) A lot of her work has been on
>     flows within systems.
>
>     I usually think of "flows" in rivers as being vector fields in an
>     incompressible fluid (water) with 6 components per point, but you
>     can also think of them as being scalar state variables. So I
>     suppose you could be modeling something other than mass flows.
>     (See Package::ReacTran for the R portal to that mathematical 
> world.)
>
>     Best;
>     David Winsemius
>
>
>     >
>     > Duncan Murdoch
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