[R] how to use "..."
Duncan Murdoch
murdoch.duncan at gmail.com
Mon Jan 21 00:03:21 CET 2013
On 13-01-20 5:54 PM, John Sorkin wrote:
> Why are the help pages not right? The ... construct is a fundamental
> part of the language syntax. Information about this fundamental
> construct should be easily available!
Yes, I agree it should be easily available. Why does that mean it has
to be on the help pages? Maybe that manual on how to use the *complete*
help system would be useful after all.
Duncan Murdoch
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> Duncan Murdoch <murdoch.duncan at gmail.com> 1/20/2013 5:06 PM >>>
> On 13-01-20 2:56 PM, Steve Taylor wrote:
> >> On 13-01-20 2:28 PM, Steve Taylor wrote:
> >>>> From: Duncan Murdoch
> >>>> Maybe we just need a manual on how to use the existing help
> system. But
> >>>> I suspect people who won't read the existing manuals won't read that
> >>>> one, either.
> >>>
> >>> Duncan, I assume you're being facetious. Every R user soon learns
> to use
> >> help() and help.search() or their equivalents. We don't need a
> manual to teach
> >> that.
> >>
> >> There are other parts of the help system that you don't appear to know
> >> about. Run help.start() for the main index page. help() is kind of a
> >> shortcut to the section labelled "Packages". help.search() gets you to
> >> "Search Engine & Keywords". There are 15 other headings to explore
> as well.
> >
> > I know about them even tho I didn't mention them.
> >
> >>>
> >>>>> Rolf Turner wrote:
> >>>>>> The "help" facility is applicable to functions and data sets.
> It is not
> >>>>>> designed
> >>>>>> or intended to give "help" with respect to R syntax (with the
> exception of
> >>>>>> the basic syntax of the operators --- unary and binary --- and the
> >>>>>> associated
> >>>>>> rules of precedence).
> >>>
> >>> Then why are there help pages ?":::", ?"for", ?"NA_character_",
> ?".C" and ?"??"
> >> but not ?"..." ?!
> >>
> >> Those are all functions or other objects, while ... is not. There are
> >> examples of topic aliases that are not objects, e.g. ?Syntax, but mostly
> >> Rolf is right. Most discussion of the syntax is in the manuals.
> >
> > Nevertheless, help("...") is a reasonable thing for a user to do and
> expect some help.
> >
>
> I agree it should do something. I think I'll have it lead to ?Reserved,
> and add pointers to the manuals from there. I don't think the help()
> pages are right for it.
>
> Duncan Murdoch
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