[R] How to evaluate R things from Visual Studio?
Michael Sumner
mdsumner at gmail.com
Wed May 23 00:00:29 CEST 2012
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Giannis Mamalikidis <n1h1l1s7 at msn.com> wrote:
> I’ve already tried R.NET (http://rdotnet.codeplex.com/ ) Version 1.4 (stable) and 1.4.1 (Change Set: 6d2c3f161801 ).
> This does seem wonderful and it doesn’t have StaconnDCOM’s ridiculous restrictions, BUT it refuses to work on me!
You ask for help from people who have used R.NET, give them time to
answer. Also, what about folks who have not used it? "Does not work"
is not enough information. What did you try? Give enough detail so
that someone might follow your footsteps, including VS versions, R
location and version, assumptions made, and links to resources used on
the way.
Cheers, Mike.
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Giannis Mamalikidis <n1h1l1s7 at msn.com> wrote:
> I understand what you're saying, but I know the mere basic stuff of
> programming. I am unable to exploit the so called "itch" because of my lack
> of knowledge.
>
> also, do you really have to get stuck on semantics??? it's just a sentence
> "what is that difficult?". A mere sentence. I've done a great job writing 50
> more, describing my problem, giving all the necessary info if not more.
>
> I'd really appreciate it if when someone took the time to answer to me, the
> answer itself be relevant.
>
> The facts are: It is something that has been done before, repeatedly. It
> isn't hard, you just have to find the right way, which would take about 1 to
> 5 minutes to write down and send it to me in order to help.
> And there is much likelihood that many people here do know the way.
> So, in a nutshell, it isn't that crazy for me to ask here (having tried many
> other places).
>
> All I'm asking is, if someone has something relevant and helping to share,
> please do so. Otherwise, please refrain from dedicating your time replying
> in vain.
>
> Don't get me wrong, I do thank everyone who has devoted his time in
> answering me, even if not successful, yet at least.
> Thanks guys. And remember, I need info on either how to get R.NET working,
> or any other way of using R from Visual Studio. Any useful insight is very
> much appreciated.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Giannis Mamalikidis
> e-mail: Giannis_Mamalikidis at msn.com
> Member of the STAINS Research Group
> (STAtistics & INformation Systems Group) of the
> Aristotle University of Thessaloniki
> Site: http://stains.csd.auth.gr
> B.Sc Student in Electrical and Mechanical Engineering
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Newmiller
> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:23 PM
> To: Peter Ehlers ; Giannis Mamalikidis
> Cc: r-help at r-project.org
> Subject: Re: [R] How to evaluate R things from Visual Studio?
>
>
> Things tend to get done in the open-source world because someone has an itch
> to scratch. Giannis, you seem to be the one with the itch, and it doesn't
> appear to be an itch others on this list share. There exists documentation
> and example code for embedding R within other compiled environments, and
> there is an R-devel mailing list for questions on interfacing to other code.
> If you think it is easy, go for it. I suspect that fixing R.NET is likely to
> take the least amount of work, but it could make assumptions you don't want
> to make, so I could be wrong. In either case, saying "Why is it THAT
> difficult?" is not going to win you much support.
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>
> Peter Ehlers <ehlers at ucalgary.ca> wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I have no solution for your problem, but a comment;
>> see inline below.
>>
>> On 2012-05-22 08:02, Giannis Mamalikidis wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all, I’m new here and this is actually my very first post.
>>> My name is Giannis and I am an undergraduate student. I am
>>
>> programming in Microsoft’s Visual Studio 2010 (VB.NET mostly) and I
>> want to create a program for the research group I am in.
>>>
>>>
>>> I merely want to evaluate actions and use simple statistical things
>>
>> such as ks test (Kolmogorov-Smirnov), and some plots.
>>>
>>> The reason I need to call R from my program is that the users of my
>>
>> program will NOT know any programming language, and by extension they
>> will not know R either. So everything will happen by the click of a
>> button.
>>>
>>> For me to do that, I need to be able to use interoperability between
>>
>> R and VS.NET 2010, so that I can use R’s evaluator.
>>>
>>>
>>> I’ve already tried Baier’s StatConnDCOM (http://rcom.univie.ac.at)
>>
>> and I did succeed in creating a program that runs perfectly but came to
>> see the hard way that – for my case, is kind of useless for the sole
>> reason of StatconnDCOM’s redistribution restriction.
>>>
>>> As Mr. Baier told me himself, there is no guarantee that StatconnDCOM
>>
>> will be available free of charge for ever. Hence I cannot create a
>> freeware program now, and have my users uncertain of where they will be
>> able to use this program for free in the future.
>>>
>>>
>>> I’ve already tried R.NET (http://rdotnet.codeplex.com/ ) Version 1.4
>>
>> (stable) and 1.4.1 (Change Set: 6d2c3f161801 ).
>>>
>>> This does seem wonderful and it doesn’t have StaconnDCOM’s ridiculous
>
> [[elided Hotmail spam]]
>
>>>
>>> So, now that you have all the necessary background info, it is time I
>>
>> presented my questions:
>>>
>>>
>>> 1) Is there another way of using R from Visual Studio that you can
>>
>> point me to?
>>>
>>> 2) Is anyone here using R.NET (any version) successfully? If so, can
>>
>> you help me to get it working? Unfortunately they can’t help me on
>> R.NET’s official discussion forum
>>>
>>>
>>> I mean, I just need to evaluate the basic R stuff.. Why is it THAT
>>
>> difficult?
>>
>> This appears to imply that you consider it to be R's fault that you
>> can't easily interface it with Visual Studio. Isn't that rather the
>> fault of VS? If VS were open source, as R is, you could probably
>> find an easy solution yourself.
>>
>> If you don't get a solution from one of those much more knowledgeable
>> than I, perhaps you might contact Microsoft.
>>
>> Peter Ehlers
>>
>>>
>>> Last but not least, let me give you info that might be relevant in
>>
>> your deciding how to aid me.
>
>
>>> R: Version 2.15.0
>
>
>>>
>>> For any additional Info, please do not hesitate to ask me either here
>>
>> or directly at Giannis_Mamalikidis at msn.com
>>>
>>> I hope we can make this work. thanks in advance.
>>> [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
>>>
>>
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