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[Roy Mendelssohn]

I understand your point., and is why I have hesitated to say anything in the past  My point is the following last line of that part of the guide:

>  Ad hominem comments are absolutely out of place

I guess with a Bayesian approach you can give "absolutely"  a fuzzy meaning.  Why I am not a Bayesian.

I could go on as to why Web services with standardized metadata for remote data are important  (I am involved in several such large government efforts),  or the fact that my small lab alone gets on the average one million data requests a day, from about 20,000 separate users a month, and the Open Geospatial Consortium is also spending a lot of time and money on developing such services.  

I was not even the one attacked.  I just think it was a useful discussion, and the personal attack was unwarranted.  Perhaps R-Help is the wrong place for such a discussion, and I have no problem with someone saying that.  I do know for our software tools, we developed last not first for R, not because of lack of demand, but because who wants to deal with such things.  

My $0.02, I realize probably not the popular opinion, but go read the response of the person who was attacked and tell me it didn't affect him. 

I will leave it at that.

-Roy


On Jan 15, 2012, at 8:30 PM, Joshua Wiley wrote:

> Hi Roy,
> 
> This still needs refinement and may benefit from moving to a Bayesian
> approach, but this is roughly my approach:
> 
> status <- function(help, harshness, OP, contributions, prior, duration) {
> 
>  params <- c(help, harshness, OP, contributions, prior, duration)
>  stopifnot(all(params > 0 & params < 1))
> 
>  goodness <- help / OP
>  rudeness <- harshness * OP
>  cont <- contributions + .5 * prior * duration
> 
>  specific <- (goodness - rudeness) + .5 * cont
>  global <- cont + .25 * (goodness - rudeness)/exp(duration)
> 
>  results <- list(SpecificStatus = specific, GlobalStatus = global)
> 
>  return(results)
> }
> 
> ## a very helpful (.9), polite (.01) response to a rude OP (.25)
> ## with moderate contributions (.5), a generally positive prior (.8),
> ## and moderate/long duration (.6)
> status(.9, .01, .25, .5, .8, .6) # what a swell person (love)
> status(.9, .01, .99, .5, .8, .6) # good solid folk (like)
> 
> status(.6, .99, .99, .5, .8, .6) # valuable smartass (tolerate)
> status(.6, .99, .99, .01, .1, .6) # useless smartass (avoid)
> 
> 
> status(.01, .99, .99, .01, .1, .1) # bad person deep down (danger will robinson)
> 
> status(.01, .99, .01, .01, .1, .1) # fights fire with fire (caution warranted)
> 
> status(.1, .99, .99, .99, .6, .99) # intollerant genius (thank)
> status(.1, .99, .1, .99, .6, .99) # normal genius (thank and like)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Josh
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Roy Mendelssohn
> <roy.mendelssohn at noaa.gov> wrote:
>> From the r-help posting guidelines:
>> 
>>> Good manners: Remember that customs differ. Some people are very direct. Others surround everything they say with hedges and apologies. Be tolerant. Rudeness is never warranted, but sometimes `read the manual' is the appropriate response. Don't waste time discussing such matters on the list. Ad hominem comments are absolutely out of place.
>> 
>> It appears IMHO, that some posters are exempted from following the guidelines.  I can cite the specific  email if anyone cares.  It shouldn't  matter how important the person is, if they fail to follow the guidelines.
>> 
>> -Roy M.
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> "Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill."
>> "From those who have been given much, much will be expected"
>> "the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice" -MLK Jr.
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Joshua Wiley
> Ph.D. Student, Health Psychology
> Programmer Analyst II, Statistical Consulting Group
> University of California, Los Angeles
> https://joshuawiley.com/

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"The contents of this message do not reflect any position of the U.S. Government or NOAA."
**********************
Roy Mendelssohn
Supervisory Operations Research Analyst
NOAA/NMFS
Environmental Research Division
Southwest Fisheries Science Center
1352 Lighthouse Avenue
Pacific Grove, CA 93950-2097

e-mail: Roy.Mendelssohn at noaa.gov (Note new e-mail address)
voice: (831)-648-9029
fax: (831)-648-8440
www: http://www.pfeg.noaa.gov/

"Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill."
"From those who have been given much, much will be expected" 
"the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice" -MLK Jr.