[R] Hello!

[Ravi Varadhan]

I actually thought that Bert's comment was tastefully funny.  I, too, do not enjoy reading all lowercase emails or emails that use ridiculous abbreviations.  In any case, I am not sure from where Mark gets the idea that the list is way too negative.  In my earlier days of learning S-Plus and R, I used to get chided by some of the R gurus, but that only fired me up to learn more. Even now when I give presentations or send manuscripts to journals, I look for comments that force me to think outside of my comfort zone.   I think this list has a good balance of helpfulness and challenging criticisms.  Mark, by reacting to the comments in a personal manner, I am afraid that you are the loser.  

Best,
Ravi.
____________________________________________________________________

Ravi Varadhan, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor,
Division of Geriatric Medicine and Gerontology
School of Medicine
Johns Hopkins University

Ph. (410) 502-2619
email: rvaradhan at jhmi.edu


----- Original Message -----
From: "Rios,Alfredo Arturo" <arios at ufl.edu>
Date: Sunday, February 27, 2011 12:40 pm
Subject: Re: [R] Hello!
To: Mark Knecht <markknecht at gmail.com>
Cc: r-help at r-project.org, Bert Gunter <gunter.berton at gene.com>


> Hi Mark,
>  
>  I agree that comment was completely unnecessary, but Berton Gunter does
>  contribute (not defending him) especially, in the "caution make sure 
> you
>  know what you are doing and consult your local statistician 
> comments." I
>  would look for the nuggets of wisdom in his comments and ignore the
>  "extra material." By leaving the list you will be doing yourself a
>  disservice as in addition to the few people who give good comments +
>  something else, there is also people who care and give excellent help.
>  >From this last people I would not only learn stats+R but also about
>  their generosity and kindness to the other list members.
>  
>  Alfredo 
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 08:27:00 -0800, Mark Knecht <markknecht at gmail.com>
>  wrote:
>  > On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Bert Gunter 
> <gunter.berton at gene.com> wrote:
>  >> Are you a fan of James Joyce? Is the Caps key on your keyboard broken?
>  >>
>  >> -- Bert
>  > 
>  > Are your snide comments adding anything to the conversation?
>  > 
>  > Do you allow for the possibility of an ESL speaker writing an email 
> to
>  > this list?
>  > 
>  > Do you know that a lot of kids, right or wrong, don't use the Caps 
> key
>  > in email or test messages.
>  > 
>  > Or, far more likely, do you just feel so far superior that you need 
> to
>  > get yourself off putting people down?
>  > 
>  > 
>  > As for me, this is a farewell to this list which is far and away the
>  > most negative list I've ever subscribed to. I'll get answers to R
>  > questions elsewhere. I don't need people like Mr. Berton Gunter in 
> my
>  > life. (He's now blacklisted in my email tools anyway as he seldom has
>  > much to offer other than snide comments.)
>  > 
>  > Good bye,
>  > Mark
>  > 
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