[R] Inverse of FAQ 7.31.
peter dalgaard
pdalgd at gmail.com
Tue Aug 2 10:16:40 CEST 2011
On Aug 2, 2011, at 08:02 , Rolf Turner wrote:
>
>
> Why does R think these numbers ***are*** equal?
>
> In a somewhat bizarre set of circumstances I calculated
>
> x0 <- 0.03580067
> x1 <- 0.03474075
> y0 <- 0.4918823
> y1 <- 0.4474461
> dx <- x1 - x0
> dy <- y1 - y0
> xx <- (x0 + x1)/2
> yy <- (y0 + y1)/2
> chk <- yy*dx - xx*dy + x0*dy - y0*dx
>
> If you think about it ***very*** carefully ( :-) ) you'll see that ``chk'' ought to be zero.
>
> Blow me down, R gets 0. Exactly. To as many significant digits/decimal places
> as I can get it to print out.
>
> But .... I wrote a wee function in C to do the *same* calculation and dyn.load()-ed
> it and called it with .C(). And I got -1.248844e-19.
>
> This is of course zero, to all floating point arithmetic intents and purposes. But if
> I name the result returned by my call to .C() ``xxx'' and ask
>
> xxx >= 0
>
> I get FALSE whereas ``chk >= 0'' returns TRUE (as does ``chk <= 0'', of course).
> (And inside my C function, the comparison ``xxx >= 0'' yields ``false'' as well.)
>
> I was vaguely thinking that raw R arithmetic would be equivalent to C arithmetic.
> (Isn't R written in C?)
>
> Can someone explain to me how it is that R (magically) gets it exactly right, whereas
> a call to .C() gives the sort of ``approximately right'' answer that one might usually
> expect? I know that R Core is ***good*** but even they can't make C do infinite
> precision arithmetic. :-)
>
> This is really just idle curiosity --- I realize that this phenomenon is one that I'll simply have
> to live with. But if I can get some deeper insight as to why it occurs, well, that would
> be nice.
I think the long and the short of it is that R lost a couple of bits of precision that C retained. This sort of thing happens if R stores things into 64 bit floating point objects while C keeps them in 80 bit CPU registers. In general, floating point calculations do not obey the laws of math, for example the associative law (i.e., (a+b)-c ?= a+(b-c), especially if b and c are large and nearly equal), so any reordering of expressions by the compiler may give a slightly different result.
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