# [R] Results from clogit out of range?

David Winsemius dwinsemius at comcast.net
Wed Apr 21 03:15:43 CEST 2010

```On Apr 20, 2010, at 7:31 PM, Noah Silverman wrote:

> I just read the help page for predict.coxph.
>
> It indicates that the risk score is just exp(lp)
>
> What I'm trying to find, and have seen with some other implementations
> is the "conditional probability within group".  Neither the lp or the
> risk options seem to deliver this.
>
> What am I missing?
>

I'm not sure that clogit lets you estimate that quantity:

http://tolstoy.newcastle.edu.au/R/help/06/02/21443.html

Do you have citations that back up your original assumption?

--
David,

> -N
>
>
> On 4/20/10 4:22 PM, Noah Silverman wrote:
>> Thanks David,
>>
>> That explains a lot.  I appreciate it.
>>
>> --
>> Noah
>>
>>
>> On 4/20/10 3:48 PM, David Winsemius wrote:
>>
>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 5:59 PM, Noah Silverman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I'm calculating a conditional logit on some data stratified by
>>>> group.
>>>> My understanding was that a conditional logit by definition
>>>> returns a
>>>> value between 0 and 1 a a probability.  Can anyone suggest why I'm
>>>> seeing results outside of the {0,1} range??
>>>>
>>> Probably because you did not read the help page for the function
>>> predict.coxph. Pay special attention to the type argument.
>>>
>>> "type=c("lp", "risk", "expected", "terms")"
>>>
>>>
>>>> The call in R is:
>>>>
>>>> m <- clogit(score ~ val_1 + val_2 + strata(group), data=data)
>>>>
>>>> Then
>>>>
>>>> prediction <- predict(m,newdata)
>>>>
>>> I do not see that you have defined any newdata.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> A sample of the data with resulting predictive values is:
>>>>    group          score   val_1               val_2
>>>> prediction
>>>> 1  2009-01-04_1     1 0.5913962     -1.121589  1.62455210
>>>> 2  2009-01-04_1     1 0.6175472     -3.249820 -0.20093346
>>>> 3  2009-01-04_1     1 0.5439640     -2.424501  0.46651849
>>>> 4  2009-01-04_1     0 0.3745209     -2.477424  0.31263855
>>>> 5  2009-01-04_1     0 0.6329855     -3.424174 -0.34200448
>>>> 6  2009-01-04_1     0 0.4571999     -2.770247  0.11190788
>>>> 7  2009-01-04_1     0 0.3822623     -2.259422  0.50627534
>>>> 8  2009-01-04_1     0 0.2605742     -4.424806 -1.44566070
>>>> 9  2009-01-04_1     0 0.4449604     -2.357060  0.46174993
>>>> 10 2009-01-04_1     0 0.6595178     -2.246518  0.69427842
>>>> 11 2009-01-04_1     0 0.5260032     -2.977887 -0.02393871
>>>>
>>> By default (which is what you have implicitly chosen) you are
>>> requesting "lp" = linear predictors rather than "risk".
>>>
>>>
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David Winsemius, MD
West Hartford, CT

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