[R] problems whit seasonal ARIMA

Rolf Turner r.turner at auckland.ac.nz
Sun Nov 1 20:13:42 CET 2009


On 2/11/2009, at 2:49 AM, Laura Saltyte wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have daily wind speed data and need

	``need'' is probably not the operative word!

> to fit seasonal ARIMA model, problem
> is that my period is 365. But when I use arima(...) function, with  
> period
> 365, I’m getting error message: “Error in makeARIMA(trarma[[1]],
> trarma[[2]], Delta, kappa) :   maximum supported lag is 350”. Can  
> someone
> help me with this problem?

	Well, you could dig into the code and rewrite it to revise the maximum
	lag.  But that would be pretty silly.

	A seasonal model with a lag of 365 is downright ridiculous.

	A seasonal model of lag ``s'' assumes that X_{t-s} has an influence
	upon or contains information about (or is non-trivially correlated
	with) X_t.  Do you *really* believe that wind speed from a year ago
	contains information relevant to current wind speed?

	There is almost surely a periodic *trend* with period 365 (well, maybe
	period 365.25?) in daily wind speed data, but that's a different issue.
	If you have data for sufficiently many years you could try estimating
	such a trend simply by averaging over all occurrences of a given day to
	estimate the trend value for that day.  You could also try fitting a
	sinusoid (probably a fairly high order sinusoid ....)

	What you really should do depends on the (practical) question that
	you are trying to answer.

		cheers,

			Rolf Turner
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