[R] Hopefully an easy error bar question
Frank E Harrell Jr
f.harrell at vanderbilt.edu
Sun Sep 7 03:46:54 CEST 2008
Ben Bolker wrote:
> Martin Maechler <maechler <at> stat.math.ethz.ch> writes:
>
>>>>>>> "FEH" == Frank E Harrell <f.harrell <at> vanderbilt.edu>
>>>>>>> on Sat, 06 Sep 2008 07:19:33 -0500 writes:
>> FEH> See http://biostat.mc.vanderbilt.edu/DynamitePlots for many reasons not
>> FEH> to use dynamite plots.
>>
>> Ah! Very good! Let's hope this eventually leads to progress
>> i.e., to much less use of these..
>>
>> Thank you, Frank!
>> Martin Maechler, ETH Zurich
>>
>> FEH> --
>
> Yes, but:
>
> http://emdbolker.wikidot.com/blog:dynamite
>
> (repeats Frank's criticisms, but also raises
> the point that boxplots show the range of the
> data, but not much about the statistical inferences
> on the data ...)
>
> comments welcome.
>
> Ben Bolker
Hi Ben,
I enjoyed the blog.
Depending on the sample size I prefer extended box plots (e.g.,
?panel.bpplot in the Hmisc package) with raw data superimposed. The
3-number summary from the box plot does not contain enough information
when the sample size is moderate or large IMHO. But for small samples,
raw data points supplemented by the 3 quartiles and the mean work well.
Frank
--
Frank E Harrell Jr Professor and Chair School of Medicine
Department of Biostatistics Vanderbilt University
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