[R] ggplot2 scale relation free

[Felipe Carrillo]

I'm with Stephen on that one, ggplot2 is one of the greatest graphics package i've ever used. Hadley, you are the man, thanks for providing this great package to the R community. By the way, your website is also nice and very informative.

Felipe D. Carrillo  
Supervisory Fishery Biologist  
Department of the Interior  
US Fish & Wildlife Service  
California, USA


--- On Fri, 10/17/08, hadley wickham <h.wickham at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: hadley wickham <h.wickham at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [R] ggplot2 scale relation free
> To: "stephen sefick" <ssefick at gmail.com>
> Cc: "R Help" <r-help at r-project.org>
> Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 2:32 PM
> Oh ok, then that will be definitely in there for the next
> version
> (which I'm aiming to release early November)
> 
> Hadley
> 
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 3:24 PM, stephen sefick
> <ssefick at gmail.com> wrote:
> > no, no, I want to facet on a variable and then have
> the plots stacked
> > on top of each other with different scales.  I have
> grown quite fond
> > of not having four different things on a plot all with
> different
> > scales- it is quite confusing.  I may send you along
> an example when I
> > get to that point.  I have about two weeks worth of
> work yet before
> > all of the insects are done. thank you for the offer.
> > thanks agian
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 4:19 PM, hadley wickham
> <h.wickham at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi Stephen,
> >>
> >> Thanks for the kind words about ggplot2 :)
> >>
> >> The next version of ggplot2 will implement the
> equivalent of scale
> >> relation free - I've just finished writing the
> bulk of the code and
> >> now I'm getting all the edge cases working. 
> However, what you
> >> describe sounds like you want multiple scales on a
> single plot - and
> >> that's not something that ggplot is likely to
> ever support.  However,
> >> it's relatively easy to rescale the variables
> yourself (provided you
> >> have some consistent way of doing so), and if you
> have a concrete
> >> example I'd be happy to show you how.
> >>
> >> Hadley
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 3:12 PM, stephen sefick
> <ssefick at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> I don't know if there is a way to use the
> scale relation free argument
> >>> in ggplot2 like in lattice.  I have a feeling
> that there is not, but I
> >>> would like to make a plea for this feature. 
> It would be nice to be
> >>> able to plot Total Inorganic Nitrogen Total
> Phosphorus and the ratio
> >>> of the two-  the numbers on the axis are not
> related, but the previous
> >>> two are surely related to the last (this ratio
> has been suggested to
> >>> show nutrient limitation, but there is the
> possibility that the
> >>> concentrations of the two constituents are
> high enough where the ratio
> >>> is not that meaningful).  Or maybe when
> particulate organic carbon is
> >>> related to macroinvertebrate density with
> scales as divergent as 1mg/L
> >>> to 1000insects/m^2 .  The good parts about
> base graphics are that you
> >>> can do anything you want to even if it is
> wrong, but I'm responsible
> >>> for my actions or assumptions.  ggplot is a
> wonderful piece of
> >>> software and most of its defaults are
> wonderful, but this would be
> >>> useful to me, anyway.  Hadley thanks so much
> for this wonderful piece
> >>> of software.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Stephen Sefick
> >>> Research Scientist
> >>> Southeastern Natural Sciences Academy
> >>>
> >>> Let's not spend our time and resources
> thinking about things that are
> >>> so little or so large that all they really do
> for us is puff us up and
> >>> make us feel like gods.  We are mammals, and
> have not exhausted the
> >>> annoying little problems of being mammals.
> >>>
> >>>                                               
>                 -K. Mullis
> >>>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Stephen Sefick
> > Research Scientist
> > Southeastern Natural Sciences Academy
> >
> > Let's not spend our time and resources thinking
> about things that are
> > so little or so large that all they really do for us
> is puff us up and
> > make us feel like gods.  We are mammals, and have not
> exhausted the
> > annoying little problems of being mammals.
> >
> >                                                       
>         -K. Mullis
> >
> 
> 
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