[R] Behavior of ordered factors in glm
Prof Brian Ripley
ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk
Sun Jan 6 08:09:05 CET 2008
Further to Duncan's comments, you can control factor codings via
options(contrasts=), by setting contrasts() on the factor and via C().
This does enable you to code an ordered factor as a linear term, for
example.
The only place I know that this is discussed in any detail is in Bill
Venables' account in MASS chapter 6.
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008, Duncan Murdoch wrote:
> On 05/01/2008 7:16 PM, David Winsemius wrote:
>> David Winsemius <dwinsemius at comcast.net> wrote in
>> news:Xns9A1CC05755274dNOTwinscomcast at 80.91.229.13:
>>
>>> I have a variable which is roughly age categories in decades. In the
>>> original data, it came in coded:
>>>> str(xxx)
>>> 'data.frame': 58271 obs. of 29 variables:
>>> $ issuecat : Factor w/ 5 levels "0 - 39","40 - 49",..: 1 1 1
>>> 1...
>>> snip
>>>
>>> I then defined issuecat as ordered:
>>>> xxx$issuecat<-as.ordered(xxx$issuecat)
>>> When I include issuecat in a glm model, the result makes me think I
>>> have asked R for a linear+quadratic+cubic+quartic polynomial fit.
>>> The results are not terribly surprising under that interpretation,
>>> but I was hoping for only a linear term (which I was taught to
>>> call a "test of trend"), at least as a starting point.
>>>
>>>> age.mdl<-glm(actual~issuecat,data=xxx,family="poisson")
>>>> summary(age.mdl)
>>> Call:
>>> glm(formula = actual ~ issuecat, family = "poisson", data = xxx)
>>>
>>> Deviance Residuals:
>>> Min 1Q Median 3Q Max
>>> -0.3190 -0.2262 -0.1649 -0.1221 5.4776
>>>
>>> Coefficients:
>>> Estimate Std. Error z value Pr(>|z|)
>>> (Intercept) -4.31321 0.04865 -88.665 <2e-16 ***
>>> issuecat.L 2.12717 0.13328 15.960 <2e-16 ***
>>> issuecat.Q -0.06568 0.11842 -0.555 0.579
>>> issuecat.C 0.08838 0.09737 0.908 0.364
>>> issuecat^4 -0.02701 0.07786 -0.347 0.729
>>>
>>> This also means my advice to a another poster this morning may have
>>> been misleading. I have tried puzzling out what I don't understand
>>> by looking at indices or searching in MASSv2, the Blue Book,
>>> Thompson's application of R to Agresti's text, and the FAQ, so far
>>> without success. What I would like to achieve is having the lowest
>>> age category be a reference category (with the intercept being the
>>> log-rate) and each succeeding age category be incremented by 1. The
>>> linear estimate would be the log(risk-ratio) for increasing ages. I
>>> don't want the higher order polynomial estimates. Am I hoping for
>>> too much?
>>>
>>
>> I acheived what I needed by:
>>
>>> xxx$agecat<-as.numeric(xxx$issuecat)
>>> xxx$agecat<-xxx$agecat-1
>>
>> The results look quite sensible:
>>> exp.mdl<-glm(actual~gendercat+agecat+smokecat, data=xxx,
>> family="poisson", offset=expected)
>>> summary(exp.mdl)
>>
>> Call:
>> glm(formula = actual ~ gendercat + agecat + smokecat, family =
>> "poisson",
>> data = xxx, offset = expected)
>>
>> Deviance Residuals:
>> Min 1Q Median 3Q Max
>> -0.5596 -0.2327 -0.1671 -0.1199 5.2386
>>
>> Coefficients:
>> Estimate Std. Error z value Pr(>|z|)
>> (Intercept) -5.89410 0.11009 -53.539 < 2e-16 ***
>> gendercatMale 0.29660 0.06426 4.615 3.92e-06 ***
>> agecat 0.66143 0.02958 22.360 < 2e-16 ***
>> smokecatSmoker 0.22178 0.07870 2.818 0.00483 **
>> smokecatUnknown 0.02378 0.08607 0.276 0.78233
>>
>> I remain curious about how to correctly control ordered factors, or I
>> should just simply avoid them.
>
> If you're using a factor, R generally assumes you mean each level is a
> different category, so you get levels-1 parameters. If you don't want
> this, you shouldn't use a factor: convert to a numeric scale, just as
> you did.
>
> Duncan Murdoch
>
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