[R] R in Industry

Paul Gilbert pgilbert at bank-banque-canada.ca
Wed Feb 7 19:16:30 CET 2007



Martin Maechler wrote:
>>>>>> "Frank" == Frank E Harrell <f.harrell at vanderbilt.edu>
>>>>>>     on Tue, 06 Feb 2007 21:59:45 -0600 writes:
> 
>     Frank> Matthew Keller wrote:
>     >> Bob,
>     >> 
>     >> Far from flaming you, I think you made a good point - one
>     >> that I imagine most people who use R have come
>     >> across. The name "R" is a big impediment to effective
>     >> online searches. As a check, I entered "R software", "SAS
>     >> software", SPSS software", and "S+ software" into
>     >> google. The R 'hit rate' was only ten out of the first 20
>     >> results (I didn't look any further). For the other three
>     >> software packages, the hit rates were all 100% (20/20).
>     >> 
>     >> I do wonder if anything can/should be done about this. I
>     >> generally search using the term "CRAN" but of course,
>     >> that omits lots of stuff relevant to R. Any ideas about
>     >> how to do effective online searches for "R" related
>     >> materials?
> 
> I don't think we (the R foundation) will ever change away from
> "R"..
> 
>     >> 
>     >> Matt
> 
>     Frank> I just googled for "R" and www.r-project.org was the
>     Frank> first hit.  Don't see a problem at present.
> 
> We are getting really off-topic, but that's interesting:
> 
> We all know that Google is helping the Chinese government to
> censor their own people, so searches there can lead to
> completely different results.  But even here in Zurich
> Switzerland, I get quite a different hitlist :
> 
>  1) stat.ethz.ch/~statsoft/stat.programme/R.html [in German]
> 
>  2) Our local CRAN mirror:  stat.ethz.ch/CRAN/
> 
>  3) R - (German-language) Wikipedia about letter "R": de.wikipedia.org/wiki/R
> 
>  4) DVD-R - (German-language) Wikipedia  de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-R
> 
>  5) The R Project for Statistical Computing http://www.r-project.org/
> 
> So 3/5 are related to R which sounds good, but actually these 3
> are all from the first twenty: 3/20.
> 
> Martin

Interesting. I just tried www.google.ca and got

1) The R Project for Statistical Computing http://www.r-project.org/

2) Wikipedia on the letter R (which also does mention the R software).

3) CRAN:  cran.r-project.org

4) R Commander

with a pretty respectable number of hits in the next 50, and the 
sponsored link is "Mango Solutions provide training and consulting on 
the R language."

Paul

> 
> 
>     >> On 2/6/07, Wensui Liu <liuwensui at gmail.com> wrote:
>     >>> I've been looking for job that allows me to use R/S+
>     >>> since I got out of graduate school 2 years ago but with
>     >>> no success. I am wondering if there is something that
>     >>> can be done to promote the use of R in industry.
>     >>> 
>     >>> It's been very frustrating to see people doing
>     >>> statistics using excel/spss and even more frustrating to
>     >>> see people paying $$$ for something much inferior to R.
>     >>> 
>     >>> 
>     >>> On 2/6/07, Doran, Harold <HDoran at air.org> wrote:
>     >>>> The other day, CNN had a story on working at
>     >>>> Google. Out of curiosity, I went to the Google
>     >>>> employment web site (I'm not looking, but just
>     >>>> curious). In perusing their job posts for
>     >>>> statisticians, preference is given to those who use R
>     >>>> and python. Other languages, S-Plus and something
>     >>>> called SAS were listed as lower priorities.
>     >>>> 
>     >>>> When I started using Python, I noted they have a
>     >>>> portion of the web site with job postings. CRAN does
>     >>>> not have something similar, but think it might be
>     >>>> useful. I think R is becoming more widely used in
>     >>>> industry and I wonder if helping it move along a bit,
>     >>>> the maintainer of CRAN could create a section of the
>     >>>> web site devoted to jobs where R is a requirement.
>     >>>> 
>     >>>> Hence, we could have our own little "monster.com" kind
>     >>>> of thing going on. Of the multitude of ways the gospel
>     >>>> can be spread, this is small.  But, I think every small
>     >>>> step forward is good.
>     >>>> 
>     >>>> Anyone think this is useful?
>     >>>> 
>     >>>> Harold
>     >>>> 
>     >>>> 
>     >>>> [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
>     >>>> 
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>     >>>> 
>     >>> 
>     >>> --
>     >>> WenSui Liu A lousy statistician who happens to know a
>     >>> little programming
>     >>> (http://spaces.msn.com/statcompute/blog)
>     >>> 
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>     >>
> 
> 
>     Frank> -- Frank E Harrell Jr Professor and Chair School of
>     Frank> Medicine Department of Biostatistics Vanderbilt
>     Frank> University
> 
>     Frank> ______________________________________________
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