[R] Calculating diameters of cirkels in a picture.

[Bartjoosen]

Hi All,

I really like to thank you for the answers, while I was searching for some
edge detection and clustering algorithms, Moshe came with a simple but
effective solution: use the area to find the diameter!

But I tried Moshe's solution, but I couldn't figure out what you mean with
morphological closing and the labeling to split the images.
Could you please clarify this a bit?

Thanks for your support


Bart


Moshe Olshansky-2 wrote:
> 
> Hi Bart,
> 
> One more comment:
> 
> You do not really need the morphological closing to
> close the "holes" inside the circles. Another
> possibility is to reverse the black-and-withe picture,
> i.e. make the holes and background be 1 and the
> circles 0, label the connected components and then
> only the component which touches the boundaries is the
> background while all other components are "holes" and
> you can make them white (1) in the original
> black-and-white image.
> 
> --- Moshe Olshansky <m_olshansky at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Bart,
>> 
>> I have never used image processing software in R (I
>> was doing this with Matlab), but here is what I
>> would
>> have done algorithmically:
>> 1) convert the picture to gray-scale
>> 2) find a threshold value which separates the
>> circles
>> from the background and convert your image to black
>> and white
>> 3) if the circles are far apart use morphological
>> closing to fill in small holes inside the circles
>> (may
>> be do this several times)
>> 4) use labeling to split the image into connected
>> components
>> 5) for each connected component get it's area (the
>> number of pixels) and use the formula S = Pi*R^2 to
>> find the approximate radii.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Moshe.
>> 
>> --- Julian Burgos <jmburgos at u.washington.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> > Hi Bart,
>> > 
>> > If you only have 36 circles, the fastest way would
>> > be to use some image 
>> > processing software and measure the circles "by
>> > hand".  One option is to 
>> > use ImageJ, which you can download here
>> > 
>> > http://rsb.info.nih.gov/ij/
>> > 
>> > Julian
>> > 
>> > Bart Joosen wrote:
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > Maybe this is more a programming questions than
>> a
>> > specific R-project question, but maybe there is
>> > someone who can point me in the right direction.
>> > >
>> > > I have a picture of cirkels which I took with a
>> > digital camera.
>> > > Now I want to use the diameter of the cirkels on
>> > the picture for analysis in R.
>> > > I can use pixmap to import the picture, but how
>> do
>> > I find the outside cirkels and calculate the
>> > diameter?
>> > > I pointed out that I can use the edci package,
>> but
>> > then I need to preprocess the data to reduce the
>> > points, otherwise it takes a long time, and my
>> > computer crashes.
>> > >
>> > > If you want to see such a picture, I cropped a
>> > larger one, and highlighted the cirkel which is of
>> > interest.
>> > > In a real world, this is a plate with 36
>> cirkels,
>> > which all should be measured.
>> > > www.users.skynet.be/fa244930/fotos/outlined.jpg
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Thanks for your time
>> > >
>> > > Bart
>> > > 	[[alternative HTML version deleted]]
>> > >
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